Plans on PA for becoming an all-music site? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Jeffro wrote:

Discussions like this come up on just about every message board at some point. Yes, you don't want to be a slave to the rules. It's better to keep the spirit of the rules in mind.

However, message boards do have categories. It's not just one big forum that acts as a catch all for everything so keeping each forum true to its focus is a good (and necessary, imo) thing. Otherwise, what's the purpose of having different forums for different topics?

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MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ nos what do you mean by “format”? Genre categories?

Hi,

You know well what I mean, and such.

I only review a few things, not everything I listen to. I subscribe to the theory that it is nicer to not say anything, maybe a wee bittie joke, about something, but not a poor review. There is a lot of literature, paintings and music, that I am not enamored with, but I grant them the right to be there, and will not specifically say anything bad. As an example, in a school class I had to read "Our Lady of Flowers" and that is not something I like reading, but the descriptions and insane imagery makes the book amazing. I wouldn't review it if it were music, or painting, but seeing it, or hearing it, is another story. And a lot of rock music feels like that for me!

I do review a few things, but will not, EVER, be involved in "ratings" whatsoever, something that I find ridiculous and sometimes malicious as it is very obviously done by a few overzealous fans, and it is much less about the music itself than it is about the fans themselves. I find that, since the day that folks fought for a piece of the pig at Anaheim stadium the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in human idiocy and behavior ... which was a by-product of the commercialization of the product ... it brought out the wrong fans, that otherwise would not be there, and in my book, took the adventure and the beauty of a lot of music away from it.

I don't give a damn about ratings, or having to post them anywhere. I care about the music itself, and playing the commercial game is not something you are going to catch me on .. .EVER.

My reviews, often, are about a lot more than just a song ... and for me, all the ratings are about the song, and have nothing to do with the artist whatsoever, or the actual idea behind the music. The "ratings" do not speak for the music and the artist ... they speak for the fans, and what your stating is that the fans are more important than the artist ... and you might as well kill all the artists then, because they don't care about the music ... they just care about their favorite song!

Edited by moshkito - November 05 2023 at 16:43

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David_D wrote:

The rules say, "discussions in "Prog Music Lounge" should only be about groups/music currently included in Prog Archives, or about progressive music in general.", and I can't interpret them otherwise than you can talk about artists included in PA, or about progressive music in general where you maybe just can mention some other artists from various genres.

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Hi,

I think that PA, nowadays, takes this a bit easier than it did before. Heck, many of the bands that are listed in Andrea's thread, or DamoX's thread are NOT on PA, but while those threads are not exactly a "discussion" per se, they are helpful in making sure that the bands are noted in some way.

I think that PA would hurt its own idea and process, if they "limited" things ... as "progressive" is about new things and breaking all the rules, not a "format" ... but we have to remember that a database is about "format" and its "organization", thus, it might not be surprising to see the comment about things having to be included, as a way to help float the database information.

Maybe today, 10/20 years later, that comment should probably be reworked, but I think it might create way too much work for Admins, and some will quit. AFAIK it's a volunteer thing, thus, adding more work to it than what is most valuable, might make it for too much work, although I think that adding a couple more folks to the grouping would help things better, and maybe the wording, including the definitions, could get a better description, than something which says ... FORMAT ... FORMAT ... FORMAT ... and is less about "progressive" than otherwise!

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I thought prog was all about breaking the rules, or at least bending them and reinterpreting them. I must be on the wrong forum. Still, after all these years, my soap screams random consonants at me.

EDIT:

(just in case my post is being taken out of context). It is an exact opposite reaction to what I perceive as a view for a very rigid approach to this forum's guidelines in prior posts and also a tie-in to our beloved genre's philosophy. People aren't machines and being this rigid is in my view unwelcoming to newcomers to the forum. Please don't take my post to imply that we shouldn't have any guidelines.

Edited by progaardvark - November 06 2023 at 03:08

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The rules say, "discussions in "Prog Music Lounge" should only be about groups/music currently included in Prog Archives,

or about progressive music in general.", and I can't interpret them otherwise than you can talk about artists included in PA,

or about progressive music in general where you maybe just can mention some other artists from various genres.

Edited by David_D - November 05 2023 at 15:23

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David_D wrote:

Are you saying, Richardh, that according to the PA rules, the Progressive Music Lounges are for all music?

If so, that is hilarious. Smile

No, he's not saying that.

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ The guidelines explicitly say that bands not included in PA cannot be discussed in the Prog Music Lounge. The "about progressive music in general" refers to discussions about prog genres and qualities of the music, not non-included bands.

This is hilarious to be honest because we all have such a solid understanding of the subject. NOT!

Music comes from artists and bands not from the air. How do you discuss any genre (prog or not) without referencing a band?

Yeah, it's not nice being just a tool.

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MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ The guidelines explicitly say that bands not included in PA cannot be discussed in the Prog Music Lounge. The "about progressive music in general" refers to discussions about prog genres and qualities of the music, not non-included bands.

That's what I thought. Thx for clarification!

''or about progressive music in general''

It's a small 'p'. imo the guidelines don't stop anything being discussed about bands not in the archive.

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