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David_D 
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Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums?
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Just my opinion but i find "classic" refers to the period where prog was most popular, most productive and most innovative. Great prog has been created ever since but never as a huge explosion of activity as in the years from 1969 - 1974. I surmise "classic" refers to an era as a whole and not the quality of music from individual artists that followed. Prog was new then so the WOW factor made it unlike anything else. Now nothing is really a surprise no matter how enjoyable.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Yes, that's exactly right, bearing in mind I listen to at least ten albums a day, I must have listened to at least two thousand albums since I last listened to Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias.
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Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:12 |
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Maybe you could upgrade your brain to a positronic one like Data has? He can listen to 150 compositions at the same time (that would be 1500 albums a day!). But if you're concerned about analyzing the aesthetics of the music, Data recommends listening to 10 or less compositions simultaneously (which is no slouch at 100 albums a day).
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Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:46 |
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I like what Cozy brought since Simon would've aped Carl's style a little too closely. Too bad they didn't do a second album together. I like 2/3 of ABWH. "Themes," "Fist of Fire," "Brother of Mine," "Birthright" and "Let's Pretend" are great. As for 3 (or Three), it's unforgivably subpar. If legacy prog stalwarts weren't involved, nobody would care about that album. It would get zero mentions!
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Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:49 |
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It may be a lot easier for you to reminisce about Iconoclasta's self-titled 1983 debut, which is just as good.
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I'd swap Alpha for The Green Album by Eddie Jobson / Zinc.
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Psychedelic Paul
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^ I wouldn't. Eddie Jobson's Green/Zinc is only a 3-star album for me.
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after second thought Edited by David_D - October 26 2023 at 13:43 |
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Actually, if talking about numbers of releases each year, this is not correct according to RYM's informations. Their statistics show that each year of the 21st century has so far had more releases than in the '70s, and a lot of years even twice as many. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ )
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Psychedelic Paul
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 1986: Ain Soph - Hat and Field - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjOZX9eoyPQ 1986: Bellaphon - Delphi  1986: Coda - Sounds of Passion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXYs3I6FqA 1986: ELO - Balance of Power - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNXvaTc2yHbSCPGYoPigCsPCWfTDlDBZE 1986: Emerson, Lake & Powell - Emerson, Lake & Powell - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtKb2sKbN9e7RqzfFtnb3k0 1986: The Enid - Salome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQVwn91QbwizunsvtnP3OkQcmzdGUx0e4 1986: Peter Gabriel - So - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ0AbdT4Z2g-vhT8LX6j1wh 1986: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Breakthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlF2k95ERpI 1986: GTR - GTR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJY8mUzYsew&t=1715s 1986: High Tide - Interesting Times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYkAIs2BbQ&t=1557s 1986: Horizont - Summer in Town - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM 1986: Outer Limits - A Boy Playing the Magical Bugle Horn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsAOf79Qd50&t=1023s 1986: Pageant - La Mosaique de la Reverie - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k--kLKn03ZWGHQ49EpvOTECGhs7rI0Em4 1986: Klaus Schulze - Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBy5IiXN2IA&t=2687s 1986: Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koE4rtsIJ002pzrNOUIjuhnft_Aun9pkY 1986: Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ltJyvHBGmdFOcB5oZfaYZ8ao0uu3YDwiM 1986: Vangelis & Irene Papas - Rapsodies - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuXW5zSOIja28Ew_so8i8Yk |
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Alpha isn't even as good as Asia, and neither are prog.
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I'd say, classic Prog is not just the Prog from The Classic Era but also a specific kind of Prog, and the term "classic" can refer to this specific, original kind of Prog, too. On that basis, we can for instance talk about Retro Prog as similar to the classic Prog. Edited by David_D - October 26 2023 at 14:56 |
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Oof! ELO, GTR and PG didn't make prog albums that year. GTR's is pure sappy AOR, even with Hackett and Howe onboard. Schulze's Dreams really isn't that memorable. 2.5 stars at best. Not a good period for him. Pageant's debut La Mosaique de la Reverie is easily a 5-star recording and a contender for best album of '86!
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Oh well, there goes any remaining prog credibility I had left here, having just added ASIA to my Symphonic Prog blog.
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I'm a serious Wetton fan but I can't pretend Asia wasn't a big step down from U.K.
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I guess it won't suprise you, Paul, when I say that surely not all the albums you list would get the stamp from me as "proper Progressive Rock", even they're approved by Wikipedia.
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No, me neither. I certainly wouldn't classify ELO, Peter Gabriel or Talk Talk as Progressive Rock, but I have no objection to them being listed in ProgArchives under Crossover Prog.
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Musically I agree, but at least JW got a decent paycheck for once!! Prog doesn't seem to be the best-paying gig in town!
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1987: Peter Bardens - Seen One Earth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjg5hKus44&t=4s 1987: Bellaphon - Firefly - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZpdK8iEAOkrZBggOanPGe1N2ehbgQLCV 1987: Blind Owl - Debut at Dusk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYivvYnGOY 1987: Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtnI3ZajBi26GqVjE0RVPXN 1987: Deep Purple - The House of Blue Light - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lIc3mzD7w_mrXvLceyJF_izU81pPyk-s8 1987: Deyys - Vision in the Dark - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavUIX9I_L5NRiKUf7WiHhSpLe2i4zf4C 1987: Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F21GrmhReu0 1987: Ezra Winston - Myth of the Chrysavides - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOUFzPRrau0 1987: Chris Hinze Combination - The Hunter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lpEaYUHOWQOAkSQqspKgcXJDRKpmoGKc0 1987: Iconoclasta - Soliloquio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdWCsONL-E 1987: Isidurs Bane - Sagan om Ringen - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lb4VTYiHAwldgLUR6I5FMx-YF-Py8fh9s 1987: Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIu0aBMU-Yt83zXHg-PF3W9 1987: Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Masque: Songs & Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_9Xc0qZEb0AJewjT4ckwaYIS7as2Qmp8 1987: Pat Metheny Group - Still Life (Talking) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mUBuF4zRuEaRpjvbhu6yClGhsdidNX2d8 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDFLftFzjjo 1987: Not Drowning, Waving - Cold and the Crackle - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kntEQLLimOapPBZ_NjCe4LtL8uyQDVfs0 1987: Mike Oldfield - Islands - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jhfI5-pszA&t=2s 1987: Outer Limits - The Scene of Pale Blue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4A7lnwU5E 1987: Alan Parsons Project - Gaudi - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lsg83gK94FbOdNLwvpRooVs 1987: Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08I7C9aGvUGTWmENUINUSQNiV1BVZ_cs 1987: Tangerine Dream - Tyger - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mB5ucN83CjtsWEpcuXpDZ-VD2Z6ZsicJ8 1987: Vermillion Sands - Water Blue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOLo3qiFvY 1987: Rick Wakeman - The Gospels 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4 |
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