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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

3 - ...to the power of three (1988)


Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T  (1989)


I don't like either of those albums. The Three album is especially depressingly bad given the talent involved.

Emeson,Lake and Powell was a better try although the line up never gelled for me and I would have much preferred Simon Phillips on the drum stool in the absence of Palmer. Not to say that Cozy wasn't a great drummer but he was more in the hard rock school of drumming. Stargazer is amazing! Phillips would have brought more to the table imo.

I like what Cozy brought since Simon would've aped Carl's style a little too closely. Too bad they didn't do a second album together.

I like 2/3 of ABWH. "Themes," "Fist of Fire," "Brother of Mine," "Birthright" and "Let's Pretend" are great.

As for 3 (or Three), it's unforgivably subpar. If legacy prog stalwarts weren't involved, nobody would care about that album. It would get zero mentions!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either. Tongue

Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums? Tongue
Yes, that's exactly right, bearing in mind I listen to at least ten albums a day, I must have listened to at least two thousand albums since I last listened to Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias.

Maybe you could upgrade your brain to a positronic one like Data has? He can listen to 150 compositions at the same time (that would be 1500 albums a day!). But if you're concerned about analyzing the aesthetics of the music, Data recommends listening to 10 or less compositions simultaneously (which is no slouch at 100 albums a day).
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either. Tongue

Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums? Tongue
Yes, that's exactly right, bearing in mind I listen to at least ten albums a day, I must have listened to at least two thousand albums since I last listened to Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any 
difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? 
- which I'm most into.


Just my opinion but i find "classic" refers to the period where prog was most popular, most productive and most innovative. Great prog has been created ever since but never as a huge explosion of activity as in the years from 1969 - 1974. I surmise "classic" refers to an era as a whole and not the quality of music from individual artists that followed. Prog was new then so the WOW factor made it unlike anything else. Now nothing is really a surprise no matter how enjoyable.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either. Tongue

Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums? Tongue


Edited by David_D - October 26 2023 at 10:57
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1985: Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias 

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Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either. Tongue
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5 stars 1985: Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias 

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5 stars 1985: Differences - The Voyage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkpX44O27U
4 stars 1985: Hawkwind - The Chronicle of the Black Sword - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZ1J_Yr7bgxri9k4ql0W-8
4 stars 1985: Horizont - Summer in Town - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM
5 stars 1985: Outer Limits - Misty Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2mYJFDcPx8&t=3107s
4 stars 1985: Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEbAmF9ZNN3XTlzjYD-1-6
4 stars 1985: Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAKBCdHlMy48RYq7q2DLFJE-aZjAtzYgl
5 stars 1985: Underground Zero - Never Reach the Stars - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY5WFLJG3VY9ykUtfIntE1L
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5 stars 1984: Solaris - Martian Chronicles 

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5 stars 1984: David Gilmour - About Face - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D151F45287469FA
4 stars 1984: Hawkwind - This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZMlq2c7Udf6z6wfN4cbnE
4 stars 1984: Isidurs Bane - Sagan om den Irlandska Algen - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_170HLztr5xUsKqvC3gW_gjlUUVpz6-o
5 stars 1984: Osiris - Myths & Legends - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsxMOUW1qo
4 stars 1984: Alan Parsons Project - Vulture Culture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt_U_yJJdBhiCHC7RaGRNtI
5 stars 1984: Solaris - Martian Chronicles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVPQlFbN5g
4 stars 1984: Vangelis - Soil Festivities - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OAHzyBIas
4 stars 1984: Rick Wakeman, Jeff Wayne & Kevin Peek - Beyond the Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsBW-Gidl8xtqrXJs-w2cmd
4 stars 1984: Roger Waters - The Pros & Cons 0f Hitch-Hiking - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4S4hqzoPYGSTOnbGutKs28BGGLoCNfHI
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

3 - ...to the power of three (1988)


Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T  (1989)



I don't like either of those albums. The Three album is especially depressingly bad given the talent involved.

Emeson,Lake and Powell was a better try although the line up never gelled for me and I would have much preferred Simon Phillips on the drum stool in the absence of Palmer. Not to say that Cozy wasn't a great drummer but he was more in the hard rock school of drumming. Stargazer is amazing! Phillips would have brought more to the table imo.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s.
 

The only band I can think of that bucked the trend was Eloy but that's very much a personal opinion. I enjoy Colours through to Time To Turn more than Dawn through to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. That said they are all good. Most classic seventies prog bands either lost the plot in the 80's or redefined their style. Eloy only made very slight modifications although even then the long form tracks disappeared and they eventually gave into the eighties with the not so good album Performance.
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3 - ...to the power of three (1988)


Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T  (1989)




Edited by JD - October 25 2023 at 15:38
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5 stars 1983: Amenophis - Amenophis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIwadRUlo0
4 stars 1983: Anyone's Daughter - Neve Sterne - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRHww2XuZyY
4 stars 1983: Eloy - Performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHkl_0UelQ
4 stars 1983: The Enid - Something Wicked This Way Comes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nIh_LR6803DmbQV7nL0WZjVZCbhgF0MZo
5 stars 1983: Gandalf - Magic Theatre - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6J-1yfYOtw
4 stars 1983: Alan Parsons Project - Ammonia Avenue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltfr8msEF5od-iMxHYEFBEC
3 stars 1983: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFEDE25F4A684239E
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One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any 
difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? 
- which I'm most into.
Classic and modern prog for me has always been divided by the before and after timeline of 1979/1980. That's how it was organised on my long-since-defunct  music site where there were just two prog genres, with prog artists from 1967 to 1979 being listed under "Classic Prog" and all prog artists who came into being from 1980 onwards being listed under the sweeping generalisation of "Neo Prog", where "Neo" just means "New" or "Modern". Smile


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Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any 
difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? 
- which I'm most into.
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Thank you for all the nice contributions to this thread so far, and not least from Progaardvark, Paul and siLLy puPPy.








Edited by David_D - October 25 2023 at 04:56
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

.... there was a lot of great prog especially from nations playing catch up

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^Yes, some of that is prog! Tongue
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