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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Most of my "clueless friends" enjoy 1970's rock and would probably respond more positively to the Mothers-era than the 1970's full blown experimental fusion days + dirty joke lyrics.


I think it's kind of the opposite. The 60's Mothers era has a lot of weird, annoying stuff, particularly on Uncle Meat and WOIIFTM. Even Hot Rats can go on a bit long at times. But I've played Freak Out! for my friends, at least the first disc, and they thought that was funny. Over-Nite Sensation and some of OSFA worked out as well, as did Joe's Garage. YAWYI is pretty accessible too. But I've also played a lot of Zappa back when I still lived with my parents, and my siblings and my mom really do not like any of it, really. Especially the guitar solos. But my friends took to Dirty Love and Wet T-Shirt Nite pretty easily.

I guess if I had to pick 5 albums I'd spread them out over different facets of Zappa. So,

Freak Out! simply because it's groundbreaking for 1966 and a completely unique album
Orchestral Favorites because it's the best representation of his classical music
One of the Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar albums...whichever I'm in the mood for I guess
Roxy & Elsewhere because it's a good represtation of both his more accessible and fusion focused aspects of this era
You Are What You is because it's a good culmination of his late-70's onwards era and a good proof that he can write more accessible stuff (if you cut out some of the lyrics and the occasional weird touch).

But really, friends of mine become at least acquainted with Zappa sooner or later because he's my favorite artist, and my oldest friends and family will pretty easily pick out a Zappa song if I just play random sh*t.


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Civilization Phaze III
We're Only In It for the Money
The Grand Wazoo
Uncle Meat
Hot Rats
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2023 at 09:11
For my picks I would try to expose some of the different sides of Zappa's work: Jazz Rock, wizardry, silliness, contemporary music and a wonderful live rendition of his work:

Hot Rats
The Grand Wazoo
Joe's Garage Acts I, II & III
Civilization Phaze III
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life


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I don't even need 5 albums to get someone into Zappa just maybe these tunes...
Watermelon In Easter Hay
Inca Roads
Deathless Horsie
G-Spot Tornado
Black Page V2 (Live '81)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2023 at 08:43

Sorry, but only two, and that is the ones I'm fond of myself:

Hot Rats   and  Over-nite Sensation
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Hi,

I think I would put on LIVE AT THE ROXY ... and if you can take that ... good ... if not ... go home and take your pacifier with you! LOL
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Most of my "clueless friends" enjoy 1970's rock and would probably respond more positively to the Mothers-era than the 1970's full blown experimental fusion days + dirty joke lyrics. I think this could work as a nice starters kit, for someone relatively openminded and curious. About half of the suggestions so far would probably have them begging me to turn the music off.

Freak Out! - packed with highly enjoyable, slightly leftfield 1960's rock.
We're Only In It for the Money - I actually consider this a masterpiece of sorts. Kind of crazy that Zappa could make this satirical concept album in the midst of the hippie era.
Hot Rats - 'Cause it's great, and feature some undeniable classics.
Waka/Jawaka - My personal favorite, and for me where to find some of the finest Jazz Rock of the 1970's.
Zoot Allures - All the songs are enjoyable and it rocks.
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Really hard to pick five, and great thread!

One Size Fits All - Inca Roads may be the best song ever written and the guitar solo on this version is perfection.

The Grand Wazoo - A fusion masterpiece.

Thing Fish - I personally hate this album, but if you want to get a reaction from anyone this is a top choice. See if they can make it all the way through. This is an album you play when you want to clear a room.

Baby Snakes (the movie) - General weirdness of Frank onstage is a must see. The claymation is bizarre and seeing a very young Bozzio performing Punky's Whips is jaw dropping. Oh, and Black Napkins, wow. Also, a young Adrian Belew is in the band. Frank always surrounded himself with superb musicians.

Roxy: The Movie - Zappa was best live, and he was at his prime here. I saw him live several times, and you never knew what to expect. One of America's greatest treasures.


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You want to play 5 Zappa albums for your clueless friend to get the best reaction out of them; which 5 would you pick and why?

Mine....
Meat - It's all over the place in a good away - showcasing everything the Mothers were doing up to that point. Idk about you, but I love it when Zappa randomly throws in juvenile humor spoken word bits for no reason other than to mess with you! LOL
Fav Song - King Kong medley

Wazoo - Jazz Fusion in the manner you would expect from Frank: weird, creepy, unpredictable, insane, and funny!  Fav Song - Title or Blessed Relief - so hard to pick!

Money - Hippy satire and all cast in a humorous light while underpinning a dark depth and message.  Fav Song - Mom & Dad or Lonely Little Girl

Roxy - His most accomplished band playing original tunes on stage (with added overdubs!) - what's not to like??  Fav Song - "Don't you ever...." or "Son of Orange"  I just can't believe you are such a foooool ah ah!

Best Band '88 - A recharged Frank with a giant rock ensemble playing all sorts of tunes from Cream, Hendrix, Cash, Zeppelin, to Bolero and Bonanza!  Fav Song - Stairway (w random noises) 

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