Pink Floyd 10 X 10

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Logan wrote: ^ Better late than never, Paul. I thought I might say better never than late when it comes to some of your favourites, but.... Just kidding, and you could easily say the same only more stridently when it comes to music I like. I did not hear King Crimson and VdGG (same with Gentle Giant and many others) until a few years or less before I joined this site that I recall, and that was thanks to the internet. I was at a sci-fi forum and one guy kept on telling me to listen to In the Court, and I finally relented, and it helped change my course of direction when it comes to pastimes. I actually was into Alan Parsons Project's I Robot before I ever remember getting into Pink Floyd. And I liked Camel's Snow Goose when I was very young. Focus and Gryphon were two others I liked at eight or so. This was thanks to my eldest brother (he by the way is very condescending towards Prog, but then he would not call Pink Floyd Prog, and I tend not to think of it as Prog either). I know when I was nine or so my two favourite albums were Tubeway Army's (with Gary Numan) Replicas and I Robot. And those still have the kinds of qualities in music that I gravitate towards today. I have you to thank for inadvertently introducing me to the marvellous Art Pop of Julia Holter. I've seen you mention her several times (alongside Chelsea Wolfe and Anna von Hausswolff) and I just happened to see her "Have You in My Wilderness" album in a charity shop last week for the princely sum of just £1, and so, nothing ventured, nothing gained, I bought it without even hearing the album first - based purely on your recommendation - and needless to say, I wasn't disappointed.

* you lucky @*&%$#*!* * ... Wonderful news, so glad to hear .... * you lucky @*&%$#*! *

That Julia Holter album is one of my very favourites of the past decade, and what a find! Very glad to hear that you are satisfied with the purchase. Great value. I don't often buy albums at charity shops simply because we don't have any locally, but I did buy a record some time ago from one that was covered with your Cream (poll you did quite recently), the Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass Whipped Cream & Other Delights one with the glorious cover.

Edited by Logan - August 09 2023 at 16:42

Logan wrote: I did not hear King Crimson and VdGG (same with Gentle Giant and many others) until a few years or less before I joined this site that I recall, and that was thanks to the internet.

Stressed Cheese wrote: Logan wrote: I did not hear King Crimson and VdGG (same with Gentle Giant and many others) until a few years or less before I joined this site that I recall, and that was thanks to the internet. I'm still working on getting most of the essentials out of the way as well (KC, Genesis, GG, ELP, Camel, Renaissance...). As nice as it would be to be knowledgable on the main prog suspects, it's also not fun rushing through things (and if you only have the budget for a couple albums each month, that limits the pace you can go at as well). but then he would not call Pink Floyd Prog, and I tend not to think of it as Prog either I never really got this. Not all of their albums are prog, but if AHM, Meddle, WYWH and Animals aren't prog, then nothing is.

Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd, it transcends genre, or almost is its own genre. I agree that Pink Floyd made music (and specific albums) that can be called Prog, but for a lot of people now those albums would sooner be referred to as classic rock if referred to as anything. Some might use terms like art rock, psych rock, concept albums, for the band.   My impression has been that people are more likely to think of acts that made Symphonic Prog like ELP and Yes when you mention the Prog word than Pink Floyd. And that is what Prog particularly meant to me. And my experience, limited though it is, in playing music like say, the Close to the Edge song would be more likely to get a, "Oh, you like Prog" comment than if you were to play "Shine on You Crazy Diamond". It has happened. Thinking about it and remembering back now, the last time I got a "Oh, that's Prog" kind of comment was driving someone while playing King Crimson's Red.

I have sometimes argued that bands are not Prog, specific music is, but I accept that people generally refer to bands as Prog, and in my experience, the very well known Pink Floyd was not referred to people as Prog when talking about it, but other other band were. So I don;t mean saying "it's not Prog", but instead not referring to it as Prog. If you know it, it's enough to recognise that it's Pink Floyd. But if I played it to someone who had some exposure to Prog but didn't know the Pink FLoy track, let's say Echoes, they might well say, "Oh, cool, Prog. Who made that?" Part of it is just that so many people I know were into Pink Floyd that one might be less likely to refer to the genre of the music than if they heard, say, some long The Flower Kings track that they had never heard before.

I haven't asked my brother what kind of music he would refer to Pink Floyd as, but I just never heard him refer to it as Prog despite him loving Pink Floyd music, and when I have played certain music he has called it Prog in a disparaging manner. It comes down to the associations one makes.

Pink Floyd is one of those bands that made Prog but I still don't think "Prog" when the name comes up with people. It does with a band like ELP. If any of that makes any sense.

Pink Floyd's best-known epic doesn't appear on any of my Top 10 Pink Floyd albums, but this song has always resonated with me, so it'd be remiss of me not to include it here. 

03. 1975: Wish You Were Here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy_mYkwl4M

Logan wrote: Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd, it transcends genre, or almost is its own genre. I agree that Pink Floyd made music (and specific albums) that can be called Prog, but for a lot of people now those albums would sooner be referred to as classic rock if referred to as anything. Some might use terms like art rock, psych rock, concept albums, for the band.   My impression has been that people are more likely to think of acts that made Symphonic Prog like ELP and Yes when you mention the Prog word than Pink Floyd. And that is what Prog particularly meant to me. And my experience, limited though it is, in playing music like say, the Close to the Edge song would be more likely to get a, "Oh, you like Prog" comment than if you were to play "Shine on You Crazy Diamond". It has happened. Thinking about it and remembering back now, the last time I got a "Oh, that's Prog" kind of comment was driving someone while playing King Crimson's Red. I have sometimes argued that bands are not Prog, specific music is, but I accept that people generally refer to bands as Prog, and in my experience, the very well known Pink Floyd was not referred to people as Prog when talking about it, but other other band were. So I don;t mean saying "it's not Prog", but instead not referring to it as Prog. If you know it, it's enough to recognise that it's Pink Floyd. But if I played it to someone who had some exposure to Prog but didn't know the Pink FLoy track, let's say Echoes, they might well say, "Oh, cool, Prog. Who made that?" Part of it is just that so many people I know were into Pink Floyd that one might be less likely to refer to the genre of the music than if they heard, say, some long The Flower Kings track that they had never heard before. I haven't asked my brother what kind of music he would refer to Pink Floyd as, but I just never heard him refer to it as Prog despite him loving Pink Floyd music, and when I have played certain music he has called it Prog in a disparaging manner. It comes down to the associations one makes. Pink Floyd is one of those bands that made Prog but I still don't think "Prog" when the name comes up with people. It does with a band like ELP. If any of that makes any sense.

1  Wish You Were Here - Welcome To The Machine

05. 1987: A Momentary Lapse of Reason - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08I7C9aGvUGTWmENUINUSQNiV1BVZ_cs 

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 14 2023 at 03:15

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06. 1977: Animals - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KQae9oMWs

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 16 2023 at 06:52