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Trickster F.
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Posted: August 14 2023 at 07:09 |
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I'll update it when I'm done with the 300-500 ratings addition (it should be substantial to say the least). Just need to get over procrastinating about adding the rest of the Klaus Schulze repertoire that fits the criteria. I also wanted at least one other person to chime in wrt the extra Zappa you said I shouldn't have added. It seems avant enough to be on the list if you ask me! If it doesn't qualify, I'm not sure what that says about the Tangerine and Klaus stuff. Anywho, I'd consult the Spotify list for a full list of the epics that's currently relevant.
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siLLy puPPy
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Who rates prog by tracks? For me it's albums only. Epic tracks contribute to great albums. A while back i made a list on RYM that featured every album with 20 minute prog tracks. Not meant to be rating system but a handy reference Since it's impossible for one person to keep up with all the epic prog these days Any suggestions would be appreciated :) |
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Cristi
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More Marillion
This Is the 21st Century The Invisible Man Neverland Happiness is the Road The Sky Above the Rain El Dorado The Leavers The New Kings |
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Stressed Cheese
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Am I the only one who's annoyed that the Zappa stuff isn't corrected in the OP yet?
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Trickster F.
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Nice, but they need to have a high enough number of ratings to fit the criteria for being added first. Still, curious the band went full avant-garde this late into their career. Having
recently returned to adding artists to this playlist, I got stuck on
Klaus Schulze. I've already added 61 songs of his, and it's not over
yet!
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bardberic
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Now that Avenged Sevenfold is here, we have another:
Exist: Edited by bardberic - July 17 2023 at 14:22 |
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Trickster F.
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Should we include this Yes song too? Totally disregarded it.
Edited by Trickster F. - July 17 2023 at 07:01 |
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AlanB
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You could add Falling For Forever to the Spock's Beard list. I know it was specially written for a compilation album but it is Spock's Beard.
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Stressed Cheese
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No, it's not. It's a group of people. Zappa used the Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra to record the song/composition/album called Lumpy Gravy, and used a later line-up to record stuff in 1975. There's two versions of Lumpy Gravy even.
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Trickster F.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback, everyone! I've included the following previously missing epics into the playlist: Echolyn A Suite for the Everyman Spock's Beard A Guy Named Sid Yes Mind Drive, That, That Is Frank Zappa Billy the Mountain, The Purple Lagoon Alan Parsons Project The Fall of the House of Usher Jethro Tull Baker St. Muse I haven't updated the list in the opening post yet, but I will when I add the expansion (see the very bottom of the post).
Having added Mind Drive and That, That is, I'm still only counting 9. What are the other two?
I do intend to keep manually removing songs that I don't consider to be prog (see Devin Townsend and PTree examples in the OP).
A little hesitant to act upon this suggestion. A lot of albums, concept or otherwise, have songs flowing one into another. Are they all to be treated like single songs? Then again, basing this entirely on whether the song titles refer to the same composition is a flawed approach to take, too. The comment below addresses the same issue:
Any more comments on this bit? It may not be a song, but it's a composition
I did include songs from live releases that don't otherwise appear on records, like some of Magma's tracks and VDGG's Squid/Octopus. Wouldn't Pictures count as separate tracks, though? I've honestly no idea now, especially after thinking about some of the latest comments! *** The list is going to be expanded even more very soon, as I've decided to add the following artists with at least 300 ratings on a highly-rated album (meaning the rating isn't too low, at least circa 4.00). The ones that do have songs above 15 mins in length anyway. This is the expansion: Chris Squire Aphrodite's Child Roger Waters Nucleus Cardiacs Univers Zero Jean-Luc Ponty Klaus Schulze Hiromi Uehara Henry Cow SBB Area Osanna Voivod Supersister Samla Mammas Manna Herbie Hancock Colosseum Solaris Il Bacio Della Medusa Death Kayo Dot Daal Los Jaivas Atheist Agalloch Between The Buried And Me Hypnos 69 Logos Yezda Urfa Steely Dan Maudlin Of The Well Il Rovescio Della Medaglia Roxy Music Fates Warning Ash Ra Tempel Celeste Birds And Buildings Asia Minor Popol Vuh Sieges Even Strawbs Leprous Unreal City Quella Vecchia Locanda Bill Bruford Redemption Roine Stolt Green Carnation Alphataurus Egg Utopia Ozric Tentacles Nemrud Biglietto Per L'Inferno Brand X Steve Hillage Nemo Quiet Sun Seven Impale Galahad Shadow Gallery Traffic The Dear Hunter Locanda Delle Fate Picchio Dal Pozzo Karnivool Kamelot Karfagen Manfred Mann's Earth Band Anthony Phillips Amon Düül II 3RDegree Pavlov's Dog Threshold Gnidrolog Sean Filkins Orphaned Land Procol Harum No-Man Collage Arch / Matheos Magenta Semiramis A.C.T The Decemberists Blind Guardian Unreal City Il Tempio Delle Clessidre Neu ! Oceansize Barock Project Amplifier Corvus Stone Lunatic Soul Weather Report La Maschera Di Cera The Tangent Brian Eno Silhouette Alcest Ange Pallas Mystery Triumvirat Astra Kraftwerk Fish The Pineapple Thief OSI Traffic Höstsonaten Magic Pie Airbag Kaipa RPWL Moon Safari Sky Architect Perfect Beings Glass Hammer Atomic Rooster Electric Light Orchestra That will hopefully give us a more complete and fascinating list to work with. Cheers, everyone!
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BrufordFreak
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Yes, Rollon, but how do you categorize/refer to those hundreds of other long-playing songs that aren't considered epics? I think, in Prog World, it's just more convenient to lump all long-playing songs under/within the "epic" moniker--unless someone were to come up with another term to encapsulate and honor those other long jams. |
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pat metheny "as falls wichita..."
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Psychedelic Paul
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That's eight more than Brighteye Brison and nine more than Neograss then.
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Very cool!!! But Yes has 11 epics...
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Psychedelic Paul
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Fifty Epic Prog Suites
01. 1972: Genesis - Supper's Ready - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVyfj7-mHqs 02. 1974: YES - The Gates of Delirium / Soon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRVBQtKltM 03. 1972: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAt1b21S97k 04. 1971: Pink Floyd - Echoes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwPSPIhohk 05. 2011: Phideaux - Snowtorch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Fx6uaCX4A 06. 1973: YES - The Revealing Science of God - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIfAbQVkR3E 07. 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXatvzWAzLU 08. 1972: YES - Close to the Edge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDU-vilgic 09. 1972: Van der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TXKdoi8WQ 10. 1977: YES - Awaken - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDXccU0xgNo 11. 1974: Focus - Hamburger Concerto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WMJsozf9eU 12. 2010: Neograss - The Sea of Tranquility - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLq172JyO0s 13. 1974: Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YCs_GkkWUg 14. 1975: Renaissance - Song of Scheherazade - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baLPlJ9sQiA 15. 1974: Todd Rundgren's Utopia - The Ikon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFkydP5PFs 16. 1972: Supersister - Pudding en Gisteren - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzSWGkQ868 17. 1968: Procol Harum - In Held Twas I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klon0T5zbgY 18. 1971: Caravan - Nine Feet Underground - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVR8lbbNBAo 19. 1973: YES - The Remembering - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBRfpeYU-a8 20. 2010: Motorpsycho - Gullible's Travails - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMqJIvRSsg 21. 2005: Phideaux - Chupacabras - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWxAjWrEtFU 22. 2011: Brighteye Brison - The Rise of Brighteye Brison - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRv8vJa7Bw 23. 2011: Haken - Visions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyfvnF5pps 24. 2009: Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHB1AXYY9co 25. 2002: Echolynn - Mei - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYD6sm-YoZ0 26. 1973: YES - The Ancient - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXUyrZBq3fM 27. 2008: Moon Safari - Other Half of the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sEnjobgMZU 28. 1973: YES - Ritual - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBabdgGAbI 29. 2008: Brighteye Brison - The Grand Event - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BKfg_DMvE 30. 2012: The Flower Kings - Numbers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss7PYDicedA 31. 2004: Magma - K.A. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVqtqmrVbu4 32. 1970: Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6e0CED9A-Q 33. 2005: Moon Safari - We Spin the World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCks7Nbjig 34. 2011: Neograss - Atlantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwEywDUqSU 35. 2007: The Flower Kings - Love is the Only Answer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68VfE_x-jI 36. 1971: Focus - Eruption - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OB5kMsOSWc 37. 2013: Days Between Stations - In Extremis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnX6bElfZ4w 38. 2008: Motorpsycho - Little Lucid Moments - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajYEoLMFK_k 39. 1975: Hatfield & the North - Mumps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_MUajIs9Vs 40. 1975: Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K-fx3uoeo 41. 2008: Brighteye Brison - The Harvest - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdueeQagDl4 42. 1975: Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4WfWEBMFys 43. 1970: Soft Machine - Out Bloody Rageous - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9O2lg1Jd6s 44. 2010: Big Big Train - The Wide Open Sea - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sqWtIOv1g8 45. 1980: The Alan Parsons Project - The Turn of a Friendly Card - - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFNa5jVmJtU 46. 1978: Mike Oldfield - Incantations - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0qrRmiFRWI 47. 2009: Magma - Emehntehtt-Re - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvZ9fMQGjQ 48. 1997: YES - Mind Drive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLLAJnmSfUY 49. 1971: Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FZ1q7UxviQ 50. 1996: YES - That, That Is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B8ZQMQcqfI |
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^^It appears the OP is sticking to studio releases, so ELP Pictures and FZ The Purple Lagoon wouldn't be included.
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Stressed Cheese
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No one's gonna point out that "Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra and Chorus" is not a song? Speaking of Zappa, "Billy the Mountain" and "The Purple Lagoon" are missing. For Alan Parsons Project, "The Fall of the House of Usher" is missing. I'd say Supersister is a big one missing (I guess it just wasn't caught by the criteria), and both Todd Rundgren ("A Treatise on Cosmic Fire") and Utopia ("The Ikon" and "Singring and the Glass Guitar"). Treatise and The Ikon both go over 30 minutes even.
I guess it can be hard to determine what an 'epic' is, at times. Some artists just have a lot of interconnected music on their albums (like FZ and KGLW). I always consider You Are What You Is side 2 as one 20-minute thing, but it's not like most of that was written with that in mind. Something like A Turn of the Friendly Card seems much more 'separate' on the other hand.
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Slight ommission - Mike Oldfields Amarok should be included at 3rd in longest epics list. Ironically Incantations should defintitely not be included as it's in 4 parts. Otherwise why not include Yes - Tales Of Topographic Oceans?!
You could also argue for ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition being included (from the album) as it's a continual unbroken performance.
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Yes, the notion of what is a single piece of music isn't straightforward. For example, under Nektar, you omitted "Journey to the Centre of the Eye". Although this is divided into 13 tracks on the CD, it really is one piece of music. Quite often, long pieces of music are divided into more than one track, complicating an automated approach. Edited by I prophesy disaster - July 04 2023 at 04:23 |
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Sean Trane
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Yes' Mind Drive (on KTA 3) and the other +/- 20-mins track on Keys To Ascension 1 Circus (switz) - Movin' On in the flipsise of the MO album. Edited by Sean Trane - July 05 2023 at 11:24 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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