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    Posted: July 03 2023 at 10:33
Hello again, everyone! I have a compulsion of sorts to create random stat-based lists that are subsequently turned into Spotify playlists (see my past threads Top 300 Prog Rock Tracks (based on RYM ratings) or Top 500 Prog Metal Tracks (based on RYM ratings)), and this time it has taken me to creating a list of all epic songs by every band featured in ProgArchives' top 250 albums with at least 500 ratings.

While the theme was self-explanatory, I had to come up with an answer to these three deceptively simple questions to even begin working on the list:

- What is an epic?
There's no single answer! Some songs get more done within a shorter length than much longer tracks, yet it seemed like length would be the simplest metric to uphold. A quick Google search for how long an epic needs to be got me to this very website's forums, where the most common response in the poll was over 15 minutes. This is exactly what I used as the cutoff line. This means Yes has 7 songs in the playlist, Genesis and King Crimson have 1 each and Pink Floyd has 4 for instance.

- What is prog?
Again, some kind of metric was expected, so I went with the ProgArchives database and the tags over at RateYourMusic to decide what would and what wouldn't make the list. For instance, Devin Townsend and Porcupine Tree both have prog-unrelated ambient tracks above 15 mins that I excluded for that reason. I don't personally feel Tangerine Dream until after Phaedra is prog, but the tag over at RYM says 'Progressive Electronic', so I followed the rules I'd established myself. I generally relied on tags where I clearly lacked knowledge of a given artist's ouevre, but there may still be rough imperfections that with some cooperative work could be alleviated.

- What is a song?
Another question that makes me sound braindead, without which the idea cannot really be adequately fulfilled. Is Shine On You Crazy Diamond a single song or two? What about Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence? Knowing more about the artist's intention each individual case would surely help, and I mostly used my intuition to see it through, so in some cases it's a bit arbitrary.


Here comes the full list. 259 epics total by 73 unique artists, with the Spotify playlist reaching 96 hours 44 minutes in running time.

No. of Songs Band Song
7 Yes  Close to the Edge 
    The Revealing Science of God (Dance of the Dawn) 
    The Remembering (High the Memory) 
    The Ancient / Giants Under the Sun 
    Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil) 
    The Gates of Delirium 
    Awaken 
1 Genesis Supper's Ready 
4 Pink Floyd  Atom Heart Mother Suite 
    Echoes 
    Shine On You Crazy Diamond
    Dogs 
1 King Crimson  Lizard 
2 Jethro Tull  Thick as a Brick 
    A Passion Play 
3 Van Der Graaf Generator  A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers 
    Meurglys III (The Songwriters Guild) 
    Squid/Octopus 
3 Rush  The Fountain Of Lamneth 
    2112
    Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres 
2 Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso  Il giardino del mago 
    Canto nomade per un prigioniero politico 
3 Änglagård Höstsejd
    Ur vilande 
    Snårdom 
4 Frank Zappa Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra And Chorus 
    The Mothers Of Invention | The Little House I Used To Live In 
    Big Swifty 
    The Adventures Of Greggery Peccary 
1 Harmonium  Histoires Sans Paroles 
5 Wobbler  Hinterland 
    Clair Obscur 
    Imperial Winter White 
    From Silence to Somewhere 
    Merry Macabre 
2 Caravan  Nine Feet Underground 
    The Dabsong Conshirtoe 
1 Renaissance  Song of Scheherazade 
1 Supertramp  Brother Where You Bound 
7 Dream Theater  A Change of Seasons 
    Octavarium 
    Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
    In the Presence of Enemies 
    The Count of Tuscany 
    Illumination Theory 
    A View from the Top of the World 
1 Museo Rosenbach  Zarathustra
1 Steven Wilson  Raider II 
2 Peter Hammill  Gog Magog (In Bromine Chambers) 
    Flight 
9 Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells 
    Hergest Ridge 
    Ommadawn 
    Incantations 
    Taurus II 
    Crises 
    Amarok 
    Music From The Balcony 
    Return To Ommadawn
7 Porcupine Tree  Phase I 
    Phase II 
    Phase III 
    Phase IV 
    The Sky Moves Sideways 
    Moon Loop (Improvisation) 
    Anesthetize 
1 Opeth  Black Rose Immortal 
1 Mahavishnu Orchestra Hymn to Him (with London Symphony Orchestra) 
8 Magma  Riah sahiltaahk 
    Kohntarkosz
    Köhntark
    Mëkanïk zaïn 
    De futura 
    K.a 
    Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré 
    Zess (Le jour du néant)
1 Robert Wyatt  The Animals' Film 
1 Chick Corea  Sometime Ago / La Fiesta 
5 Marillion  Grendel 
    This Strange Engine 
    Ocean Cloud 
    Interior Lulu 
    Gaza 
2 All Traps On Earth  All Traps on Earth 
    Magmatic Warning 
1 Hatfield & The North  Mumps
3 Focus  Eruption 
    Anonymus Two 
    Hamburger Concerto 
2 Edge Of Sanity  Crimson 
    Crimson II 
2 Emerson, Lake & Palmer  Tarkus 
    Karn Evil 9 
1 Riverside  Second Life Syndrome 
7 IQ  The Last Human Gateway 
    The Narrow Margin 
    Harvest Of Souls 
    Without Walls 
    For Another Lifetime 
    The Great Spirit Way 
    Fallout 
1 Bubu  El Cortejo de un Día Amarillo 
1 Pain of Salvation  The Passing Light of Day 
1 Il Balletto di Bronzo  Introduzione 
1 TOOL  7empest 
15 Tangerine Dream  Alpha Centauri 
    Birth of Liquid Plejades 
    Nebulous Dawn 
    Origin of Supernatural Probabilities 
    Zeit 
    Atem 
    Phaedra 
    Rubycon 
    Madrigal Meridian 
    Force Majeure 
    Tangram 
    Mojave Plan 
    Sphinx Lightning 
    Green Desert 
    Livemiles 
3 Phideaux  Chupacabras 
    Waiting For the Axe To Fall 
    Snowtorch 
6 Big Big Train  The Underfall Yard 
    The Wide Open Sea 
    East Coast Racer 
    A Mead Hall in Winter 
    Brooklands Sequence 
    Atlantic Cable 
2 Eloy  Land Of No Body 
    Atlantis' Agony At June 5th, 8498, 13 p.m. Gregorian Earthtime 
4 Haken  Celestial Elixir 
    Visions 
    The Architect (feat. Einar Solberg) 
    Messiah Complex 
2 The Mars Volta  Cassandra Gemini 
    Tetragrammaton 
8 Transatlantic  All of the Above 
    My New World 
    In Held ('Twas) in I 
    Duel with the Devil 
    Stranger in Your Soul 
    The Whirlwind
    Into the Blue 
    Kaleidoscope 
3 Discipline.  Into the Dream 
    Before the Storm 
    Rogue 
12 Motorpsycho  Demon Box 
    The Wheel 
    JAGA JAZZIST HORNS 
    Suite: Little Lucid Moments 
    Gullible's Travails 
    Through the Veil 
    Ratcatcher 
    Big Black Dog 
    A Pacific Sonata 
    The Crucible 
    N.O.X. IV: Night of Pan 
    Chariot Of The Sun 
4 Soft Machine  Facelift 
    Slightly All The Time 
    Moon In June 
    Out-Bloody-Rageous 
1 Uriah Heep  Salisbury 
12 Neal Morse  A Whole Nother Trip
    The Creation 
    The Separated Man 
    The Door 
    The Conflict 
    The Conclusion 
    So Many Roads
    Seeds of Gold 
    World Without End 
    Alive Again 
    Not Afraid, Pt. 2 
    Beyond the Years 
5 Beardfish  Sleeping In Traffic 
    Until You Comply/Entropy 
    And the Stone Said: If I Could Speak 
    Note 
    If We Must Be Apart (A Love Story Continued) 
1 Devin Townsend  Singularity 
8 Spock's Beard  The Light 
    The Water 
    Time Has Come 
    Flow 
    At The End Of The Day 
    The Great Nothing 
    From The Darkness 
    Jaws Of Heaven 
1 Comus  The Malgaard Suite - Live in 1972 
6 Sylvan  A Fairytale Ending 
    Artificial Paradise 
    Chapter 2: Share the World with Me 
    Chapter 3: The Words You Hide 
    Chapter 4: The Waters I Traveled 
    Chapter 5: Farewell to Old Friends 
1 Kate Bush  An Endless Sky Of Honey 
2 Gryphon  Midnight Mushrumps 
    (Ein Klein) Heldenleben 
2 Symphony X  The Divine Wings of Tragedy 
    The Odyssey 
4 Moon Safari  We Spin the World 
    Methuselah's Children 
    Other Half of the Sky 
    Lover's End Pt. III: Skellefteå Serenade 
2 Arena  Moviedrome 
    The Legend of Elijah Shade 
3 Gazpacho  Dream of Stone 
    Space Cowboy 
    Sapien 
3 Liquid Tension Experiment Three Minute Warning 
    When the Water Breaks 
    Ya Mon 
7 CAN  You Doo Right 
    Halleluhwah 
    Aumgn 
    Bel Air 
    Animal Waves 
    Cutaway 
    Graublau 
6 Amon Düül II  Phallus Dei 
    Yeti 
    Syntelman's March of the Roaring Seventies 
    Restless Skylight-Transistor-Child 
    Chamsin: The Marilyn Monroe-Meomorial-Church 
    Tatzelwurmloch 
1 Hawkwind  You Shouldn't Do That 
2 Nektar  A Tab in the Ocean 
    Remember The Future
1 The Alan Parsons Project The Turn of a Friendly Card 
10 The Flower Kings  Stardust We Are 
    Garden of Dreams 
    I Am the Sun
    The Truth Will Set You Free 
    Devil's Playground 
    Love Supreme 
    Driver's Seat 
    Monsters & Men 
    Love Is the Only Answer 
    Numbers 
2 Karmakanic  Send a Message From the Heart 
    Dot_God the Universe and Everything Else No One Really Cares About, Pt. I 
4 Pendragon  Not Of This World
    World's End
    The Wishing Well 
    Comatose 
4 Anubis  Disinfected and Abused 
    The Passing Bell 
    A Room with a View 
    Pages of Stone 
3 Echolyn  Mei 
    Shades 
    Island 
2 Comedy of Errors  Wonderland 
    Summer Lies Beyond 

Here are the Band Rankings according to the number of epics they are represented by on the list:

15 Tangerine Dream
12 Motorpsycho, Neal Morse
10 The Flower Kings
9 Mike Oldfield
8 Magma, Transatlantic, Spock's Beard
7 Yes, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, IQ, CAN
6 Big Big Train, Sylvan, Amon Düül II
5 Wobbler, Marillion, Beardfish
4 Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Haken, Soft Machine, Moon Safari, Pendragon, Anubis
3 Van Der Graaf Generator, Rush, Änglagård, Focus, Phideaux, Discipline., Gazpacho, Liquid Tension Experiment, Echolyn
2 Jethro Tull, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Caravan, Peter Hammill, All Traps On Earth, Edge Of Sanity, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Eloy, The Mars Volta, Gryphon, Symphony X, Arena, Nektar, Karmakanic, Comedy of Errors
1 Genesis, King Crimson, Harmonium, Renaissance, Supertramp, Museo Rosenbach, Steven Wilson, Opeth, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Robert Wyatt, Chick Corea, Hatfield & The North, Riverside, Bubu, Pain of Salvation, Il Balletto di Bronzo, TOOL, Uriah Heep, Devin Townsend, Comus, Kate Bush, Hawkwind, The Alan Parsons Project

And to top it off, have a Top 30 Longest Prog Epics!

1.    77:00 Transatlantic – The Whirlwind
2.    72:00 Mile Oldfield - Incantations
3.    59:26 The Flower Kings - Garden of Dreams
4.    57:04 Tangerine Dream – Livemiles
5.    49:28 Echolyn - Mei
6.    49:18 Mile Oldfield - Tubular Bells
7.    48:49 Magma - K.a
8.    46:21 Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré
9.    45:06 Jethro Tull - A Passion Play
10.    43:50 Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
11.    43:00 Edge of Sanity – Crimson II
12.    42:09 Mile Oldfield - Return To Ommadawn
13.    42:05 Kate Bush – An Endless Sky of Honey
14.    42:02 Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
15.    40:19 Tangerine Dream – Tangram
16.    40:00 Edge of Sanity – Crimson
17.    38:09 Mile Oldfield - Hergest Ridge
18.    37:57 Magma - Zess (Le jour du néant)
19.    36:25 Mile Oldfield - Ommadawn
20.    36:12 Phideaux – Snowtorch
21.    35:44 Beardfish – Sleeping in Traffic
22.    35:40 Nektar – Remember the Future
23.    35:32 Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways
24.    34:58 Tangerine Dream – Rubycon
25.    33:38 Neal Morse – World Without End
26.    32:32 The Mars Volta – Cassandra Gemini
27.    31:54 Transatlantic - Kaleidoscope
28.    31:45 Frank Zappa - Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra And Chorus
29.    31:44 Moon Safari – Other Half of the Sky
30.    31:28 Magma – Kohntarkosz

I hope any of the resources above can be of some use, and I'm curious what possible improvements to the list could be welcome.

One thing on my to-do list at present would be to continue the list with other bands' epics. Say, why exactly do Comedy of Errors and Anubis have representation on the list but Collage and La Maschera Di Cera don't? An exhaustive list of every notable prog epic ever recorded would be great to have sometime down the line.

I'm digging the playlist generated as a result of this project, and I'll be looking to correct or consider correcting some of the inconsistancies that no doubt permeate the list based on what is pointed out in this thread.



Edited by Trickster F. - July 14 2023 at 23:37
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Cool project. Here are some more.

Pat Metheny Group "The Way Up" (68:07).

Not in PA top 250, yet epic.

Echolyn "A Suite For the Everyman" (28:13)

The Psychedelic Ensemble "Tale of the Golden King" (72:11)
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Hi,

I was thinking that Klaus Schulze could put a serious dent in the LENGTH of things ... and he was doing these very long pieces very early in the 70's.

The WORKS series has impossibly long stuff ... 


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Shouldn't Kate Bush's "The Ninth Wave" (26:21) also be included? It's the complete second side from the Hounds of Love album (1985).
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Nice project. I see it differently though. To me under ten minutes long songs such as King Crimson's In the Court... and Epitaph are both epic, while Can's Aumgn isn't. But never mind. Length obviously playss some part. The first I though was missing by following your rules was:

Jethro Tull - Baker St. Muse (16.40)

+ here's some suggestions:

Vortex - Les Cycles De Thanatos (25:13)
Univers Zero - La Faulx (25:02)
Heldon - Bolero (21:47)
Dashiell Hedayat - Cielo Drive 17 (21:09)
Supersister - Pudding En Gisteren (20:59)
Ash Ra Tempel - Amboss (19:52)
Forgas - Cocktail (19:04)
Popol Vuh - Bruder des Schattens-Sone Des Licht (18:49)
The Pentangle - Jack Orion (18:38)
Kraan - Head (18:37)
Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes - Poème Non Épique (18:37)
Earth & Fire - Song Of The Marching Children (18:25)
King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - The Dripping Tap (18:17)
Roy Harper - Mc Goohan's Blues (17:55)
Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust (17:51)
Dionne-Bregent - Le Prophete (17:49)
Mia - Cornonstipicum (17:43)
Brave New World - The End (17:42)
Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'odyssee (17:07)
Art Zoyd - - La Ville (16:51)
Secret Chiefs 3: Ishraqiyun - Perichoresis (16:48)
Bo Hansson - Born In The Gentle South (16:35)
Artcane - Artcane 1 (16:18)
Embryo - Ticket to India (16:00)
Guapo - King Lindorm (15:41)
Embryo - Entrances (15:39)
Moving Gelatine Plates - Last Song (15:26)
Present - Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, Part I: Ram Ram Va Faire 'Pif Paf' (15:24)
Art Zoyd - Chemins De Lumiere (15:21)
Vangelis - The Dragon (15:18)
Univers Zero - Ronde (15:12)
Il Balletto de Bronzo - Introduzione (15:11)
Supersister - Energy (15:01)
Deuter - Babylon (15:00)

Plus loads of additional Jazz Rock-Fusion & loads Klaus Schulze + more obscure Progressive Electronic, if you want those kind of suggestions. You don't seem be including Post-Rock, so I skipped them.
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Wow, 96 hours and 44 minutes! Four straight days! This sounds like a job for Paul!

Anyway, I think your definitions (or boundaries) are quite suitable. Others have already noted that epics can be shorter than 15 minutes and some songs that reach the boundary aren't actually epics. It just complicates things, so an arbitrary time limit seems more than reasonable to me, otherwise your list could get quite out of hand and you may end up with a playlist that may take thousands of hours to listen to. Great job!
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Wow, 96 hours and 44 minutes! Four straight days! This sounds like a job for Paul!

Anyway, I think your definitions (or boundaries) are quite suitable. Others have already noted that epics can be shorter than 15 minutes and some songs that reach the boundary aren't actually epics. It just complicates things, so an arbitrary time limit seems more than reasonable to me, otherwise your list could get quite out of hand and you may end up with a playlist that may take thousands of hours to listen to. Great job!
Everyone is free to do as they please, but an actual definition of "epic" should be a little more complicated than something that lasts for 15 minutes or more. That just tells you it's a track that lasts long. Nothing more. One can say that a song is of epic length, but 16 minutes of bleeping sounds doesn't make for an epic.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Shouldn't Kate Bush's "The Ninth Wave" (26:21) also be included? It's the complete second side from the Hounds of Love album (1985).
I thought maybe it's because the OP was omitting tracks that are broken up into several smaller tracks that, together, form the suite/epic. Hence the absence of Spock's Beard's "A Guy Named Sid." But Haken's "Messiah Complex," TFK's "Garden of Dreams," and DT's "Six Degrees..." are there so... I don't know. With that many, a few are bound to be missed.
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Yes' Mind Drive (on KTA 3) and the other +/- 20-mins track on Keys To Ascension 1



Circus (switz) - Movin' On in the flipsise of the MO album.






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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

- What is a song?
Another question that makes me sound braindead, without which the idea cannot really be adequately fulfilled. Is Shine On You Crazy Diamond a single song or two? What about Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence? Knowing more about the artist's intention each individual case would surely help, and I mostly used my intuition to see it through, so in some cases it's a bit arbitrary.
 
Yes, the notion of what is a single piece of music isn't straightforward. For example, under Nektar, you omitted "Journey to the Centre of the Eye". Although this is divided into 13 tracks on the CD, it really is one piece of music. Quite often, long pieces of music are divided into more than one track, complicating an automated approach.
 



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Slight ommission - Mike Oldfields Amarok should be included at 3rd in longest epics list. Ironically Incantations should defintitely not be included as it's in 4 parts. Otherwise why not include Yes - Tales Of Topographic Oceans?!

You could also argue for ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition being included (from the album) as it's a continual unbroken performance.
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No one's gonna point out that "Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra and Chorus" is not a song? Speaking of Zappa, "Billy the Mountain" and "The Purple Lagoon" are missing. For Alan Parsons Project, "The Fall of the House of Usher" is missing. I'd say Supersister is a big one missing (I guess it just wasn't caught by the criteria), and both Todd Rundgren ("A Treatise on Cosmic Fire") and Utopia ("The Ikon" and "Singring and the Glass Guitar"). Treatise and The Ikon both go over 30 minutes even.

I guess it can be hard to determine what an 'epic' is, at times. Some artists just have a lot of interconnected music on their albums (like FZ and KGLW). I always consider You Are What You Is side 2 as one 20-minute thing, but it's not like most of that was written with that in mind. Something like A Turn of the Friendly Card seems much more 'separate' on the other hand.
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^^It appears the OP is sticking to studio releases, so ELP Pictures and FZ The Purple Lagoon wouldn't be included.
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Fifty Epic Prog Suites

01. 5 stars 1972: Genesis - Supper's Ready - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVyfj7-mHqs
02. 4 stars 1974: YES - The Gates of Delirium / Soon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRVBQtKltM
03. 4 stars 1972: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAt1b21S97k
04. 5 stars 1971: Pink Floyd - Echoes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwPSPIhohk
05. 5 stars 2011: Phideaux - Snowtorch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Fx6uaCX4A
06. 4 stars 1973: YES - The Revealing Science of God - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIfAbQVkR3E
07. 5 stars 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXatvzWAzLU
08. 5 stars 1972: YES - Close to the Edge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDU-vilgic
09. 2 stars 1972: Van der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TXKdoi8WQ
10. 5 stars 1977: YES - Awaken - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDXccU0xgNo
11. 5 stars 1974: Focus - Hamburger Concerto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WMJsozf9eU
12. 5 stars 2010: Neograss - The Sea of Tranquility - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLq172JyO0s
13. 3 stars 1974: Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YCs_GkkWUg
14. 5 stars 1975: Renaissance - Song of Scheherazade - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baLPlJ9sQiA
15. 4 stars 1974: Todd Rundgren's Utopia - The Ikon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFkydP5PFs
16. 3 stars 1972: Supersister - Pudding en Gisteren - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzSWGkQ868
17. 4 stars 1968: Procol Harum - In Held Twas I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klon0T5zbgY
18. 5 stars 1971: Caravan - Nine Feet Underground - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVR8lbbNBAo
19. 4 stars 1973: YES - The Remembering - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBRfpeYU-a8
20. 4 stars 2010: Motorpsycho - Gullible's Travails - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMqJIvRSsg
21. 4 stars 2005: Phideaux - Chupacabras - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWxAjWrEtFU
22. 4 stars 2011: Brighteye Brison - The Rise of Brighteye Brison - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRv8vJa7Bw
23. 4 stars 2011: Haken - Visions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyfvnF5pps
24. 4 stars 2009: Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHB1AXYY9co
25. 4 stars 2002: Echolynn - Mei - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYD6sm-YoZ0
26. 4 stars 1973: YES - The Ancient - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXUyrZBq3fM
27. 4 stars 2008: Moon Safari - Other Half of the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sEnjobgMZU
28. 4 stars 1973: YES - Ritual - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBabdgGAbI
29. 5 stars 2008: Brighteye Brison - The Grand Event - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BKfg_DMvE
30. 4 stars 2012: The Flower Kings - Numbers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss7PYDicedA
31. 3 stars 2004: Magma - K.A. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVqtqmrVbu4
32. 4 stars 1970: Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6e0CED9A-Q
33. 4 stars 2005: Moon Safari - We Spin the World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCks7Nbjig
34. 5 stars 2011: Neograss - Atlantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwEywDUqSU
35. 4 stars 2007: The Flower Kings - Love is the Only Answer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68VfE_x-jI
36. 5 stars 1971: Focus - Eruption - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OB5kMsOSWc
37. 5 stars 2013: Days Between Stations - In Extremis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnX6bElfZ4w
38. 3 stars 2008: Motorpsycho - Little Lucid Moments - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajYEoLMFK_k
39. 3 stars 1975: Hatfield & the North - Mumps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_MUajIs9Vs
40. 4 stars 1975: Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K-fx3uoeo
41. 5 stars 2008: Brighteye Brison - The Harvest - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdueeQagDl4
42. 5 stars 1975: Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4WfWEBMFys
43. 3 stars 1970: Soft Machine - Out Bloody Rageous - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9O2lg1Jd6s
44. 4 stars 2010: Big Big Train - The Wide Open Sea - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sqWtIOv1g8
45. 4 stars 1980: The Alan Parsons Project - The Turn of a Friendly Card -  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFNa5jVmJtU
46. 4 stars 1978: Mike Oldfield - Incantations - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0qrRmiFRWI
47. 3 stars 2009: Magma - Emehntehtt-Re - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvZ9fMQGjQ
48. 4 stars 1997: YES - Mind Drive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLLAJnmSfUY
49. 5 stars 1971: Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FZ1q7UxviQ
50. 4 stars 1996: YES - That, That Is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B8ZQMQcqfI
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Very cool!!! But Yes has 11 epics...
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Very cool!!! But Yes has 11 epics...

That's eight more than Brighteye Brison and nine more than Neograss then. Tongue


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pat metheny "as falls wichita..."

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Wow, 96 hours and 44 minutes! Four straight days! This sounds like a job for Paul!

Anyway, I think your definitions (or boundaries) are quite suitable. Others have already noted that epics can be shorter than 15 minutes and some songs that reach the boundary aren't actually epics. It just complicates things, so an arbitrary time limit seems more than reasonable to me, otherwise your list could get quite out of hand and you may end up with a playlist that may take thousands of hours to listen to. Great job!
Everyone is free to do as they please, but an actual definition of "epic" should be a little more complicated than something that lasts for 15 minutes or more. That just tells you it's a track that lasts long. Nothing more. One can say that a song is of epic length, but 16 minutes of bleeping sounds doesn't make for an epic.

Yes, Rollon, but how do you categorize/refer to those hundreds of other long-playing songs that aren't considered epics? I think, in Prog World, it's just more convenient to lump all long-playing songs under/within the "epic" moniker--unless someone were to come up with another term to encapsulate and honor those other long jams.

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Thanks a lot for the feedback, everyone! I've included the following previously missing epics into the playlist:
Echolyn     A Suite for the Everyman
Spock's Beard    A Guy Named Sid
Yes    Mind Drive, That, That Is
Frank Zappa    Billy the Mountain, The Purple Lagoon
Alan Parsons Project    The Fall of the House of Usher
Jethro Tull    Baker St. Muse

I haven't updated the list in the opening post yet, but I will when I add the expansion (see the very bottom of the post).

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Very cool!!! But Yes has 11 epics...


Having added Mind Drive and That, That is, I'm still only counting 9. What are the other two?

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Everyone is free to do as they please, but an actual definition of "epic" should be a little more complicated than something that lasts for 15 minutes or more. That just tells you it's a track that lasts long. Nothing more. One can say that a song is of epic length, but 16 minutes of bleeping sounds doesn't make for an epic.


I do intend to keep manually removing songs that I don't consider to be prog (see Devin Townsend and PTree examples in the OP).

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

- What is a song?
Another question that makes me sound braindead, without which the idea cannot really be adequately fulfilled. Is Shine On You Crazy Diamond a single song or two? What about Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence? Knowing more about the artist's intention each individual case would surely help, and I mostly used my intuition to see it through, so in some cases it's a bit arbitrary.
 
Yes, the notion of what is a single piece of music isn't straightforward. For example, under Nektar, you omitted "Journey to the Centre of the Eye". Although this is divided into 13 tracks on the CD, it really is one piece of music. Quite often, long pieces of music are divided into more than one track, complicating an automated approach.


A little hesitant to act upon this suggestion. A lot of albums, concept or otherwise, have songs flowing one into another. Are they all to be treated like single songs? Then again, basing this entirely on whether the song titles refer to the same composition is a flawed approach to take, too. The comment below addresses the same issue:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Slight ommission - Mike Oldfields Amarok should be included at 3rd in longest epics list. Ironically Incantations should defintitely not be included as it's in 4 parts. Otherwise why not include Yes - Tales Of Topographic Oceans?!

You could also argue for ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition being included (from the album) as it's a continual unbroken performance.


Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

No one's gonna point out that "Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra and Chorus" is not a song?


Any more comments on this bit? It may not be a song, but it's a composition

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^^It appears the OP is sticking to studio releases, so ELP Pictures and FZ The Purple Lagoon wouldn't be included.


I did include songs from live releases that don't otherwise appear on records, like some of Magma's tracks and VDGG's Squid/Octopus. Wouldn't Pictures count as separate tracks, though? I've honestly no idea now, especially after thinking about some of the latest comments!

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The list is going to be expanded even more very soon, as I've decided to add the following artists with at least 300 ratings on a highly-rated album (meaning the rating isn't too low, at least circa 4.00). The ones that do have songs above 15 mins in length anyway. This is the expansion:

Chris Squire
Aphrodite's Child
Roger Waters
Nucleus
Cardiacs
Univers Zero
Jean-Luc Ponty
Klaus Schulze
Hiromi Uehara
Henry Cow
SBB
Area
Osanna
Voivod
Supersister
Samla Mammas Manna
Herbie Hancock
Colosseum
Solaris
Il Bacio Della Medusa
Death
Kayo Dot
Daal
Los Jaivas
Atheist
Agalloch
Between The Buried And Me
Hypnos 69
Logos
Yezda Urfa
Steely Dan
Maudlin Of The Well
Il Rovescio Della Medaglia
Roxy Music
Fates Warning
Ash Ra Tempel
Celeste
Birds And Buildings
Asia Minor
Popol Vuh
Sieges Even
Strawbs
Leprous
Unreal City
Quella Vecchia Locanda
Bill Bruford
Redemption
Roine Stolt
Green Carnation
Alphataurus
Egg
Utopia
Ozric Tentacles
Nemrud
Biglietto Per L'Inferno
Brand X
Steve Hillage
Nemo
Quiet Sun
Seven Impale
Galahad
Shadow Gallery
Traffic
The Dear Hunter
Locanda Delle Fate
Picchio Dal Pozzo
Karnivool
Kamelot
Karfagen
Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Anthony Phillips
Amon Düül II
3RDegree
Pavlov's Dog
Threshold
Gnidrolog
Sean Filkins
Orphaned Land
Procol Harum
No-Man
Collage
Arch / Matheos
Magenta
Semiramis
A.C.T
The Decemberists
Blind Guardian
Unreal City
Il Tempio Delle Clessidre
Neu !
Oceansize
Barock Project
Amplifier
Corvus Stone
Lunatic Soul
Weather Report
La Maschera Di Cera
The Tangent
Brian Eno
Silhouette
Alcest
Ange
Pallas
Mystery
Triumvirat
Astra
Kraftwerk
Fish
The Pineapple Thief
OSI
Traffic
Höstsonaten
Magic Pie
Airbag
Kaipa
RPWL
Moon Safari
Sky Architect
Perfect Beings
Glass Hammer
Atomic Rooster
Electric Light Orchestra

That will hopefully give us a more complete and fascinating list to work with.

Cheers, everyone!
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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

No one's gonna point out that "Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra and Chorus" is not a song?


Any more comments on this bit? It may not be a song, but it's a composition


No, it's not. It's a group of people. Zappa used the Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra to record the song/composition/album called Lumpy Gravy, and used a later line-up to record stuff in 1975. There's two versions of Lumpy Gravy even.
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