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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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![]() Roger Waters' second solo studio album, based on a fictitious US radio station, where Roger does for American radio what Gerald Ratner did for jewellery sales. ![]() |
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6786 |
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Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 27 2023 at 10:16 |
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ledzepfan63 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 05 2023 Location: bassett,va Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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roger waters should retire
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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Well, Roger certainly deserves a comfortably numb retirement after such a long and distinguished career stretching back over half a century, when Pigs (on the wing) might fly before ever seeing him perform with Pink Floyd again. Welcome to the Roger Waters appreciation club.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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![]() The second single from Roger Waters' second album, where Roger extols the virtues of Hollywood's Sunset Strip, although he'd rather be in Wales, apparently. ![]() Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 28 2023 at 10:36 |
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bardberic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2021 Location: PA, USA/Israel Status: Offline Points: 886 |
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Yeah, pigs will fly with Jewish symbols on it next to Communist symbols and Dollar Signs. Oh wait that was last week. This week he flew a pig with a Jewish star on it in Berlin while he was dressed as a f**king Nazi with a picture of Anne Frank juxtaposed with a dead journalist who he believes the IDF killed, surrounded by banners in the style of the Third Reich. In BERLIN. Go to Hell, Waters! You'll find lots of Nazis, with whom to fit in there. See, pigs have flown and he still hasn't performed with Pink Floyd. But he's still a motherf**ker. A motherf**ker under criminal investigation by German authorities that is... A geriatric, senile Varg Vikernes it seems.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ You sound as intolerant and as indecent as RW...
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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![]() Roger Waters' second album ended with a simulated nuclear attack, but his record company told him it was far too bleak and depressing and needed a more upbeat ending. No kidding!!! So Roger came up with "The Tide is Turning" instead - the third single from the album. Okay, so it's not exactly the most uplifting of songs, but it's about as upbeat as you're going to get in Roger's gloomy view of the world. ![]() Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 29 2023 at 04:48 |
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bardberic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2021 Location: PA, USA/Israel Status: Offline Points: 886 |
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What, so I'm supposed to tolerate his antisemitism and intolerance towards me and my people? If he's going to proudly boycott me, then I'm not ashamed to boycott him. That's how these things work! Call me as intolerant as you want (as justified as I may be in this case); in any case, nevertheless, I am not under criminal investigation for inciting hatred. Roger Waters is, however. Serves the b*****d right.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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![]() Roger is not amused! Roger Waters' third album explores more doom and gloom themes, ranging from World War One, the Gulf War and the ever-present threat of nuclear armageddon. It's a typical Roger Waters album then, although there's something strangely endearing about Roger's curmudgeonly outlook on life. After all, who else but Roger Waters could make a Radiohead album sound cheerful by comparison. ![]() Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 31 2023 at 06:48 |
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6786 |
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I'm amused at my second favorite Waters album. Roger certainly composes deep thoughts, imports important issues, tissues occasionally wiping see water out of the corners of my watering eyes. Eye shadow disaster! Mascara massacre.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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^ At least men never have to worry about eye shadow disaster, or mascara massacre - apart from in the New Romantic eighties era.
![]() ![]() Steve Strange - strange by name, strange by his androgynous visage.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29367 |
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RW should toddle off to that retirement home for incurable tyrants and kings sooner rather than later. Shame, a genius mind behind DSOTM just loses the plot. Brain Damage? Art imitating life or is it vice versa
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43309 |
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![]() Cheer up, Roger, it may never happen. ![]() |
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telefunk ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2011 Location: The Restaurant at the End o Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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He seems to have completely lost it. Go live in Russia if you love Pukin!
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18890 |
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The only good thing about the pros and cons album is the cover.
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6786 |
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"I pay attention to the music...not the lyrics." How many times have I heard progheads say that one in reviews, posts, and in conversation? Well, I pay attention. I love the English language. I've read oodles of Joyce, Shakespeare, Fielding, Conrad, ect... Best progressive rock lyrist ever? In my opinion, it's a toss up between Waters and Ian Anderson. It's hilarious how many folks misunderstand Water's words. When Water's writes "Welcome to the machine", he's not advocating for Fascism. He's using the literary devise of sarcasm to mock Fascism and show his contempt for all things totalitarian. Back in the day, most folks got it. They'd seen the movie The Wall. Two score and four years later they don't get it. ![]() Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 31 2023 at 16:46 |
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I thought welcome to the machine was about the business of music and its venal capitalists
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6786 |
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Yes, that's part of it. The Machine is any Powerful Human Agency that takes advantage of those who don't have access to power. When Waters wrote "Welcome to the Machine" his daily experience was with the music industry. So he wrote what he knew. Yet, Waters saw Totalitarian Power existed in many places outside the music industry. ![]() Waters channeled Orwell's Animal Farm to mock totalitarianism. Mocking totalitarians is a major theme running through the majority of Roger Waters' lyrical compositions. Sure, Orwell wrote about farm animals. Yet, Animal Farm was about much more than animals reorganizing a farm. Just so, when Waters references Dogs, Sheep, and Pigs...he actually meant humans. Imagine that? ![]() Edited by omphaloskepsis - May 31 2023 at 17:24 |
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I thought it was a Scottish thing where you have been adopted into the clan, be it the clan MacDonald, the clan MacDougal, the can MacRob. or in this case the clan MacHine and they were wondering about his whereaboots before realising the he was having a bite to eat at the house o the nice lass wha livit doun the lade.
Welcome ma son welcome tae the MacHine where have ye been? it's alricht we know where ye've been... Ower at Miss MacMillan's tastin her delicious cullen skink again, richt? |
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