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Ummagumma, my second favourite PF album.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about Keys To Ascension one and two by Yes? How could you leave out those? Confused

My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!

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Rick1 wrote:

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about Keys To Ascension one and two by Yes? How could you leave out those? Confused

My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!

Well, so was three sides live though not as much. I get it though. You didn't want to go too far away from the golden era.

Anyway, I'm only familiar with the Genesis, Moody Blues and PF so I won't vote.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - March 02 2023 at 10:05

I guess Ummagumma. Though in the early years box-set there are a few great concerts to give it a run for its money. And then there is Live at Pompeii too.

I went for Six/6. (it needed it most)

Rick1 wrote:

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about Keys To Ascension one and two by Yes? How could you leave out those? Confused

My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!

On their own adlission, some of the Yes member claim they were hardly at their top for that concert (under-rehearsed).

TBH, if I still spin the KTA once in a while, it's mainly for the studio tracks ... and then, certainly more so, for the KTA2 studio tracks. I might not even own those two KTA double albums if they'd published the Keystudio tracks as an album proper back then.

Cream's Wheel Of Fire & Goodbye might also be a bit out of time frame (68 & 69 rspectively)

Edited by Sean Trane - March 04 2023 at 02:48

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Neu!mann wrote:

None of the above...my vote belongs to the King Crimson album Starless and Bible Black (1974, and thus well within the 'classic timeframe')

I don't believe SaBB is typically considered a live album (partial or otherwise). I had no idea that some of it was recorded live until I read about it online a few years ago. They took the crowd noise out so it wouldn't sound like a live album. You can refer to it as a partially live album if you want but really it isn't (not imo). I think a better case for a partial live abum would be Frank Zappa's Sheik Yerbouti which also features songs that had crowd noise edited out (but not all).

Actually, a decent amount of Zappa's output counts. He would often have live cuts in his studio albums, or have albums mostly composed of cut up live bits with studio overdubs.

Three different examples:

-Roxy/Elsewhere is billed as a live album, but every single track contains studio overdubs, and many of the tracks are actually amalgams of a few different live takes.

-Sheik Yerbouti is considered a studio album, but most of the tracks get their basis from a 1978 live performance at The Hammersmith Odeon in London (as chronicled in the ZFT posthumous release Hammersmith) with a lot of studio tracks laid on top. Unlike the former album, I believe the studio contributions rival the live contributions. Most of the vocals were done in studio (except for Yo' Mama, I believe), that's for sure.

-Tinseltown Rebellion is mostly a live album, but does contain some overdubbing, and the opening track, Fine Girl, is a studio track.

Not to mention the many studio albums that feature Zappa's use of "xenochrony," a term he coined to describe the process of taking a live guitar solo track and placing it in a different context over a studio rhythm backing track.

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The first album was from various albums, and the second album had two live versions that were, in my book, the best that RT has ever done both of those pieces. It helps that Dave Pegg was on bass, too! Never have "Night Comes In" and "Calvary Cross" sounded so perfect!

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Sean Trane wrote:

I went for Six/6. (it needed it most)

Rick1 wrote:

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What about Keys To Ascension one and two by Yes? How could you leave out those? Confused

My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!

On their own adlission, some of the Yes member claim they were hardly at their top for that concert (under-rehearsed).

TBH, if I still spin the KTA once in a while, it's mainly for the studio tracks ... and then, certainly more so, for the KTA2 studio tracks. I might not even own those two KTA double albums if they'd published the Keystudio tracks as an album proper back then.

Cream's Wheel Of Fire & Goodbye might also be a bit out of time frame (68 & 69 rspectively)

I wouldn't know by the sound of the songs. Many are my favorite versions of them. Particularly Awaken and Starship Trooper, Time and a Word is great too, Don't Kill the Whale, Siberian Khatru. now, the one I do remember not liking so much on this album is Close to the Edge, which was played too slow, and in the organ part, too soft.

Poll Question: Your favourite part live/part studio album?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Genesis - 'Three Sides Live' (North American version)	6	[12.77%]
Gong - 'Live Etc.'	3	[6.38%]
Henry Cow - 'Concerts'	8	[17.02%]
Steve Hillage - 'Live Herald'	1	[2.13%]
Moody Blues - 'Caught Live plus Five'	2	[4.26%]
Pink Floyd - 'Ummagumma'	24	[51.06%]
Soft Machine - 'Six'	3	[6.38%]
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