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Lot of interesting comments.
Not mentioned before, what about

Cat Stevens
Alberto Radius
Paul Simon
Joy Division
...Carl Orff 



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Toto
Steely Dan
The Tubes
XTC
Chicago (not typically considered prog but maybe they should be)
The Fixx
Styx
The Police
Sting (Hey, if Andy Summers could do proggy fusion why not Sting?)
Jimi Hendrix
The Who
The Beatles
ELO
Many new wave bands
Many post punk bands




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1. The Stranglers
2. Cardiacs
3. The Damned
4. Elvis Costello
5. Neil Young


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Many new wave bands
Many post punk bands

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Devo
Joy Division
Nomadi
Cat Stevens
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2022 at 07:56
I've replied twice...I have forgotten the previous but I'm happy to see that my opinion about Devo and Stevens is not changed
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I've replied twice...I have forgotten the previous but I'm happy to see that my opinion about Devo and Stevens is not changed

"Angelsea" from Catch Bull At Four sounds particularly proggy to me. Also,there's the fact that Peter Gabriel played flute on one of his early albums plus his one drummer was in Jethro Tull for a bit later on. He also did a side long suite on his Foreigner album but I never heard that album.
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The Tubes would be ideal candidates for Prog. They were never thought to be Prog in the 70s when "White Punks On Dope" was played on the radio. Their image was of the later Glam Rock style..mid to late 70s. A bit like Rocky Horror Picture Show. Their first album ends with White Punks On Dope , but building up to that point are songs like "Up From The Deep", "Mondo Bondage, "Boy Crazy" and others that enter Zappa territory regarding instrumental passages and arrangements.

Obviously not a band that had an ambition to be successful in Progressive Rock..but the irony of how complex their arrangements were right?
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^ I like this track:
 
 
 
And for something a bit proggier:
 
 

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^Ten Years After - Standing At The Station
 
 

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Echoes from Meddle is not prog? Well, I'll be. I just read a post saying they weren't prog.

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I would say Midnight Oil, but a few songs on their debut album were pure prog. Especially "Bus To Bondi". I wish they did more of it. There's nothing like angry prog.

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Lady Gaga.  She's an excellent vocalist & pianist, and her stage skills are sublime! 

She's a New Yorker, so a Broadway production of "The Lamb" would be a slam-dunk! 
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


...Carl Orff

In fact had good old Igor Stravinsky lived long enough and discovered his heart for prog, I think he'd have blown everyone else away.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


...Carl Orff

In fact had good old Igor Stravinsky lived long enough and discovered his heart for prog, I think he'd have blown everyone else away.
toward the end of his life, Stravinsky was singing the praises of James Brown:

Here is Chernoff's footnote in full: “Hal Neely, former president of King Records, the most important label in Afro-American music for more than 20 years, told me that Stravinsky, in response to an interviewer’s question concerning his favourite composers, once replied ‘The three Bs.’ ‘The three Bs,’ Stravinsky is said to have explained, are Bach, Beehoven and Brown—James Brown. According to Neely, Stravinsky went on to say that James Brown should be considered one of the greatest composers of all time, that he was writing truly American music and portraying the American heritage" (p.199, African Rhythm and African Sensibility, John Miller Chernoff, University of Chicago Press, 1979)
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One person in particular who wasn't Progressive Rock, but structured music to be Progressive in Pop Music Culture was Laura Nyro. In 1967 she was writing hit records for Pop Bands, but her versions of the songs were not exactly sugar coated for the industry.

In 67' she wrote a song titled "The Confession " which was kind of odd and to this day...I can hear YES playing it. Sometimes she reminded me of a Broadway style . Other times she was very jazzy . She wanted to pursue her own style of music. She sat at the piano with Miles Davis and asked for his approval on the New York Tendaberry album. His response was to not change anything. Many artists surrounding her began writing like her...even if it was a snippet of her idea.

She basically came along and changed the way Pop Music could be written by creating jazzy dissonance, odd time changes, and some of the most beautiful melodic chord voicing that no one had ever heard before. This particular aspect to Laura Nyro was a major influence on Todd Rundgren. Not only did a lot of his songs contain her style of writing, but he actually used many of her odd chord progressions on Utopia albums. ..and particularly on keyboards that sounded Electronic and were sustaining with ambience and especially on side 2 of the Initiation album.

So she was really different because even though we had Gil Evans, Miles Davis, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass, Brian Wilson, Lennon and McCartney...with all of their innovative writing qualities she remained to be completely different than all of them. Her ideas for Pop Music raised the question "Why does Pop Music have to be simple?" We can still have a catchy hook, a distinctive melody, but be Progressive underneath it all.

Listening to her is an acquired taste...because she's odd. She wrote some really strange music . Todd Rundgren described her looking like a very large gypsy. I don't know what she heard in her head as her ideas were forming. Most of what she wrote no one had ever thought of. She completely changed the way musicians wrote on a national scale. She was very ethereal, energetic, creative, and innovative.
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from the 90's brit rock revival crowd:

Radiohead
Muse
Mansun

The last of those pretty much did a full blown prog album with Six but it tends to go under the radar.

I wouldn't rule out Oasis either. Noel Gallagher was a big Floyd fan.

I generally have a 'thing' for 3 peice bands and Placebo certainly had the chops for prog rock.

Girls wise then Natasha Khan (Bat For Lashes) stands out. Her first album has some serious prog moments but she chose to go down the more ambient route which is fine. I still like her lots anyway.

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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Definitely Big Country...a brilliant band...some of their longer songs and especially the 12" singles were very prog leaning. BC comprised four extra-special musicians.

I've got a bunch of Big Country albums sitting right next to me! GREAT band!
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