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^ Honestly and personally, I think you should stop picking on almost each and every post of Paul that you don't like. I find it more and more disturbing how you are harassing him. It is clear that you will never get used to Paul's particular humour, but to express it each and every time and time again is really really really getting very very very tedious.

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Thanks Logan. I really need to Czech those bands out and Polish up on my knowledge of East European prog, as I'm always Hungary to expand my musical horizons. Smile

My current Polish playlist:- Abraxas; Collage; Quidam; Satellite; SBB

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Thanks Logan. I really need to Czech those bands out and Polish up on my knowledge of East European prog, as I'm always Hungary to expand my musical horizons. Smile

My current Polish playlist:- Abraxas; Collage; Quidam; Satellite; SBB

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Thanks Logan. I really need to Czech those bands out and Polish up on my knowledge of East European prog, as I'm always Hungary to expand my musical horizons. Smile

My current Polish playlist:- Abraxas; Collage; Quidam; Satellite; SBB

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Bizarrely, Marillion's highly-acclaimed Brave & Marbles albums didn't even make it into the RYM Top 120. Ouch

Neither Brave nor Marbles are labelled/ tagged as Neo-Prog at RYM.  See: https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/marillion

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RYM Rating3.76 5.0 from 1,962 ratings
Ranked#80 for 1994, #2,949 overall
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For Marbles:

RYM Rating3.80 5.0 from 1,928 ratings
Ranked#21 for 2004, #1,984 overall
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calm, introspective, melancholic, melodic, progressive, atmospheric, male vocals, mellow, concept album, soft, sombre, space, bittersweet, passionate


The Neo-Prog phase at RYM for Marillion is considered to be the 80s one, and I have seen that view echoed at PA as well.

Here is an excerpt from the Neo-Prog description at RYM (see https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/neo-prog/  :

Originally posted by RYM RYM wrote:

Although the original scene died in the late '80s with Fish leaving Marillion and Peter Nicholls leaving IQ, the genre continued an underground following with bands like PendragonArena and Galahad at the forefront, and creating some smaller scenes, like the '90s Polish scene of AbraxasCollage and Quidam. Although Marillion moved further away from neo-prog, IQ continued to make albums in the style, and gained a further cult following after Peter Nicholls returned to the band.

Thanks Logan. I really need to Czech those bands out and Polish up on my knowledge of East European prog, as I'm always Hungary to expand my musical horizons. Smile

My current Polish playlist:- Abraxas; Collage; Quidam; Satellite; SBB


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I wrote:

"All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition 
of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. "

including your example in The Big Six - of the 80s?

but I find PA's (and RYM's) definition to be a good one.

Then again, to be fair, I've seen some albums classified on PA as Neo-Prog which were something entirely different from the 80's Neo-Prog. For instance, Seeds on the Ground (2007) by the Chinese Cold Fairyland. 
And if I recognized this album as Neo-Prog, my Neo-Prog collection would increase 50% - btw, an album I'm very fond of, and it's something surely exceptionelt comparing to the usual Prog stuff .Smile


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I wrote:

"All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition 
of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. "

including your example in The Big Six - of the 80s?

but I find PA's (and RYM's) definition to be a good one.
Well, there's no consensus between Cristi & I, that's for sure. Tongue

There never is but you keep banging on as if your 'different' opinion is as equally valid as the consensus of the rest of the site. How about give it a rest for a bit. It's getting tiring.
I agree, can we just set up a thread where Paul and Cristi disagree with each other without ever editing the posts they're quoting so they get longer and longer...
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I wrote:

"All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition 
of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. "

including your example in The Big Six - of the 80s?

but I find PA's (and RYM's) definition to be a good one.
Well, there's no consensus between Cristi & I, that's for sure. Tongue

There never is but you keep banging on as if your 'different' opinion is as equally valid as the consensus of the rest of the site. How about give it a rest for a bit. It's getting tiring.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Well, there's no consensus between Cristi & I, that's for sure. Tongue

can you quit baiting? Confused
 



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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I wrote:

"All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition 
of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. "

including your example in The Big Six - of the 80s?

but I find PA's (and RYM's) definition to be a good one.
Well, there's no consensus between Cristi & I, that's for sure. Tongue
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I wrote:

"All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition 
of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. "

including your example in The Big Six - of the 80s?

but I find PA's (and RYM's) definition to be a good one.


Edited by David_D - September 16 2022 at 09:27
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Citizens of Hope & Glory: an excellent history of Progressive Rock, where Echolyn, The Flower Kings & Spock's Beard all featured heavily in the chapter on Neo ProgSmile

All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. 

Yes, there is consensus.
And there's nothing neo-prog about the bands mentioned above. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Citizens of Hope & Glory: an excellent history of Progressive Rock, where Echolyn, The Flower Kings & Spock's Beard all featured heavily in the chapter on Neo ProgSmile

All your examples tell me, Paul, that there might not be so much consensus about the definition of Neo-Prog as I have thought it. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Citizens of Hope & Glory: an excellent history of Progressive Rock, where Echolyn, The Flower Kings & Spock's Beard all featured heavily in the chapter on Neo Prog. Smile

Now, I've ordered it. Tongue
It's so good, I read it twice! Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Citizens of Hope & Glory: an excellent history of Progressive Rock, where Echolyn, The Flower Kings & Spock's Beard all featured heavily in the chapter on Neo Prog. Smile

Now, I've ordered it. Tongue
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

This is the neo-prog top 10:

3. 'Script for a Jester's Tear' - Marillion
6. 'The Jewel' - Pendragon

I agree on these two. Big smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Citizens of Hope & Glory: an excellent history of Progressive Rock, where Echolyn, The Flower Kings & Spock's Beard all featured heavily in the chapter on Neo Prog. Smile

Ookaay, I'm not familiar with this one, my thanks.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

There's a couple of Neo Prog bands on the RYM & Last.FM list from eastern Europe that I'm looking forward to checking out:- Satellite & Collage. I haven't listened to them yet, but I expect they'll be well-Polished. Tongue

LOL

So do I.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Bizarrely, Marillion's highly-acclaimed Brave & Marbles albums didn't even make it into the RYM Top 120. Ouch

Neither Brave nor Marbles are labelled/ tagged as Neo-Prog at RYM.  See: https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/marillion

For Brave:

RYM Rating3.76 5.0 from 1,962 ratings
Ranked#80 for 1994, #2,949 overall
Genres
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atmospheric, introspective, male vocals, concept album, lonely, sombre, melodic, nocturnal, rock


For Marbles:

RYM Rating3.80 5.0 from 1,928 ratings
Ranked#21 for 2004, #1,984 overall
Genres
Descriptors
calm, introspective, melancholic, melodic, progressive, atmospheric, male vocals, mellow, concept album, soft, sombre, space, bittersweet, passionate


The Neo-Prog phase at RYM for Marillion is considered to be the 80s one, and I have seen that view echoed at PA as well.

Here is an excerpt from the Neo-Prog description at RYM (see https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/neo-prog/  :

Originally posted by RYM RYM wrote:

Although the original scene died in the late '80s with Fish leaving Marillion and Peter Nicholls leaving IQ, the genre continued an underground following with bands like PendragonArena and Galahad at the forefront, and creating some smaller scenes, like the '90s Polish scene of AbraxasCollage and Quidam. Although Marillion moved further away from neo-prog, IQ continued to make albums in the style, and gained a further cult following after Peter Nicholls returned to the band.

Thanks! That explains it then. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ So, let me get this straight... once, you managed to find a copy of a Marillion album in a small town outside Nottingham, therefore you think that if you bide your time, someone will deposit a moderately obscure, 20 year old Polish Neo album in the same place, when I've just shown you a cheap copy with free postage?

Paul, welcome to the mM prog bargain page... just knock yourself out:


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