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jamesbaldwin 
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 Topic: Our favorite prog songs of the SeventiesPosted: July 12 2022 at 12:08 |
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THE RULES ARE: 1) Choose 4 prog songs released between 1970 and 1979 that are among your favorites, no matter if they are famous or less-known songs (however, they must not belong to one of the bands that are present with one or more albums in the Top 100 - all time). 2) The songs must last a maximum of 10-11 minutes. 3) After you have posted your selection, listen to each song posted by the other forumists, and put them in order from 1 (the one you like best) to 4 (the one you like least). Number 1 gets 5 points, number 2 gets 3 points, number 3 gets 2 points, number 4 gets 1 point. 4) From your selection of 4 songs, two songs will participate in the final vote, but you won't be the one to choose them: the songs nominated will be those that have obtained the highest score from the votes of the forumists. 5) And in the end you vote for 3 songs! Have fun! ------- 07/22 EDIT: The partecipants are: 1) jamesbaldwin 2) suitkees 3) nick 4) someone else 5) Bald Friede 6) Bald Jean 7) mathman0806 8) prophesy disaster 9) lewian 10) mila 11) cristi. Everyone will nominate 2 songs (the songs with the highest score) Here the table with the songs and the score: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ikb4J6VkrewpSLQXnFx7F7HRxQNLH0dGPvr_OtH0ZI/edit?usp=sharing There will be 22 songs. We can vote 4 songs. 4, not 3. The vote will start next Wednesday. Edited by jamesbaldwin - July 29 2022 at 10:22 |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: July 12 2022 at 12:23 |
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My Selection:
1) Quatermass: Laughin' Tackle (1970) 2) Tim Buckley: Lorca (1970) 3) Roxy Music: A Song For Europe (1973) 4) Henry Cow: Beautiful As The Moon (1975) |
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suitkees
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:03 |
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It's quite amazing to see some of those tremendous groups not represented with an album in PA's top 100 - it shows how relative this list is (and how very much Anglo-Saxon dominated). My choices (and the album's they're off) would be in my personal top 20, taking into account that there could be 38 albums in my top 20... was first thinking of Eloy, but the albums I prefer are from 1980-1982, so not eligible. I've always preferred the better Grobschnitt albums over anything Genesis and Ange is part of my personal Big Six... Anyway, these four pieces are for me those albums and bands that nourished my prog explorations in the early/mid eighties when I was discovering all these wonderful things. Regarding these four bands: it could have been another track from another album. In alphabetical order... Alquin - Soft Royce (1972): Ange - À Colin-Maillard (1978): Grobschnitt - Severity Town (1977): Saga - Humble Stance (1978): Edited by suitkees - July 15 2022 at 03:54 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:40 |
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From Lorenzo:
Roxy Music (5 points) Quatermass (3 points) Henry Cow (2 points) Tim Buckley (1 point) I knew only the Roxy and Cow tracks, so the other two were new to me. I really enjoyed the Quatermass - almost enough to displace Roxy from the top spot. From Kees: Alquin (5 points) Ange (3 points) Grobschnitt (2 points) Saga (1 point) Again, I knew only two of the tracks (Ange and Grobschnitt), but this time one of the new tracks did usurp one of the more familiar for the top spot. Somewhat amusingly, to me, my order of preference matches the alphabetical order Kees presented the tracks in. I guess I need to try and work out my four, now…. |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 02:46 |
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Wonderful selection Lorenzo, I like all four of them very much. It's a bit of a torture to have to rank them, but here we go (a bit determined by the "I have to be in the mood" criterion): 1. Roxy Music - A Song For Europe: 5 points (no specific mood required) 2. Henry Cow - Beautiful As The Moon: 3 points 3. Quatermass - Laughin' Tackle: 2 points 4. Tim Buckley - Lorca: 1 point Edited by suitkees - July 14 2022 at 02:46 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 05:18 |
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Oh how I looove Humble Stance!
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 06:13 |
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Perhaps somewhat predictably, I’m going to go for some Kiwi prog - which has the advantage of being unlikely to feature in the top 100. Two of my favourite albums from the year of my birth (1975) are from NZ bands, so I figured I would start with tracks from them. First up, Split Enz’s “Stranger Than Fiction”, from their debut album, “Mental Notes”. Followed by Dragon’s “La Gash Lagoon”, from their second album, “Scented Gardens For The Blind”. Ragnarok’s eponymous debut was also released in 1975, and from that album, “Caviar Queen”. And finally, Airlord’s “Ladies Of The Night”, from “Clockwork Revenge”. Not qualifying for the poll, being released in 1969 (and also not having any stand-out stand-alone tracks), “The Happy Prince” by The La De Da’s, which is generally accepted as Aotearoa’s first prog album, and first concept album. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbx2AF6LLbSjtXMeMXrpP3bwuEqefi7G4 I did also consider tracks from John Hanlon, Highway, The Human Instinct, and Think, but none really seemed quite right. I possibly would have included something from From Scratch, but couldn’t find any of their ‘70s material on YouTube. So, as another bonus, here’s a From Scratch compilation I found on Bandcamp, that has a couple of ‘70s pieces on it. https://emrecords.bandcamp.com/album/five-rhythm-works Edited by nick_h_nz - July 16 2022 at 00:51 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 08:09 |
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It was hard for me to find tracks that are (1) from the 70s, (2) not from a group in the top 100, (3) less than 10 minutes in length, AND (4) a favourite. But in the end, I found more than four and had the tough choice of picking just four: Argent - Hold Your Head Up (1972) I first heard this on the radio when it first came out and fell in love with it immediately even though I was quite young and not yet into progressive rock. And it was the organ solo that I especially loved. Hawkwind - Opa-Loka (1975) I was quite surprised to find that Hawkwind are not in the top 100, so I took this opportunity to present my favourite Hawkwind track and one of my favourite tracks overall. Jeff Beck - Scatterbrain (1975) In my circle of friends, this album is a classic. And for me, this track along with the previous track, is the highlight of the album and is among my favourite jazz-rock tracks. The Residents - Edweena (1978) This was my first exposure to The Residents, which I heard on the radio late one night. I was disappointed when the announcer said the album was "Not Available", but later found that it was available after all. Edited by I prophesy disaster - July 14 2022 at 08:38 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 09:45 |
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A lot of gems...
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 09:54 |
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About my selection:
1) Quatermass was a one-shot-group, but what a hit they scored, with their only album, in my opinion one of the best of the year 1970. They were a trio where John Gustafson, bassist, sang. It is the same Gustafson who plays the bass in Roxy Music's A Song For Europe. The real genius of the group, however, was Peter Robinson, keyboardist who inspired Pagliuca ("Le Orme") and who took care of the production and arrangements of many Shawn Phillips albums (in Furthermore, one of the most prog, he plays keyboards, he wrote some songs, and with him there is Gustafson). Quatermass: in the same album there is another masterpiece, Post War Saturday Echo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKum68hFjxs 2) Tim Buckley: Lorca Tim Buckley has published 4 masterpieces in two years: I don't know if anyone equals him: Blue Afternoon, Happy Sad, Lorca and Starsailor. I chose his more psychedelic song, but I could have chosen others that were more mesmeric, orgasmic, free-folk. But Buckley has less fans because he doesnt play real prog. Other masterpieces: From Happy Sad: Gypsy Woman (twelve minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaUt6KRsmKg From Blue Afternoon: The Train https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AshTvxslz1Q Included in Lorca there is another masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBztYTF7uc And then, From Starsailor... a lot of songs 3) Roxy Music, have released a true masterpiece: their debut, which should be in the Top 100. In that album there is a song that in my opinion is a masterpiece (but there are so many wonderful ones) that reaches the peak of A Song for Europe : If There Is Something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlttedKNlo 4) Henry Cow: they made 3 masterpieces: Unrest, In the Praise, Western Culture: in my opinion the second album is the most complete because it alternates instrumental pieces with real fabulous songs like the one I have chosen (the 15-minute suite is also a masterpiece).
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 15:23 |
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Time to stumble in once more. In chronological order:
Traffic - Every Mother's Son (1970) I discovered this band in 2004 and this was the reason I came upon ProgArchives, Gnidrolog - Lady Lake (1972) A brilliant track by a band that has its position near the center of the triangle Jethro Tull - Gentle Giant - Van der Graaf Generator. Alquin - Take Any Road (1976) Alquin is my favourite Dutch prog band. This track closes their underrated album Best Kept Secret (2.60 today), their final studio album before the 29 year break. Sounds more or less like Stephen Stills having a foray into the realm of prog. Anthony Phillips - Wise after the Event (1978) A long time favourite which went with me for some 43 years. The first six tracks of the eponymous album are stellar. Edited by someone_else - July 15 2022 at 14:20 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 15:46 |
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Guru Guru - Der Elektrolurch (1973) High Tide - The Joke (1970) Embryo - Radio Marrakesch/Orient Express (1973) Steve Hillage - Hurdy Gurdy Glissando (1976) Hawkwind - Assault and Battery/The Golden Void (1975) Edited by BaldFriede - July 14 2022 at 17:27 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 16:12 |
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I'll add a few too: Can - Splash (1974) Dzyan - For Earthly Thinking (1974) Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (1972) Clearlight - Spiral d'amour (1978) Edited by BaldJean - July 14 2022 at 17:30 |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:01 |
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@BaldFriede,
I'm happy to see you here, but these Interactive Polls are not the usual polls, there are some specific rules (please read my first comment). In this case, you should select just 4 songs, and not from the bands included in the Top100 (no Magma, no Gong, the other songs are ok). |
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:25 |
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Sorry, we misunderstood. We thought you meant "not from an album that is in the top 100".
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:44 |
1) Alquin: Soft Royce. Long instrumental prelude with the sax, a soulful mood, then a piece of samba (oh my God! Stroke of genius or excess?); the vocals arrives after 3 and a half minutes but does not last long, and immediately comes a long final coda with the sax, in a pop-jazz style. In fact a very eclectic song in terms of atmosphere and tempo changes. 2) Ange: A Colin-Maillard: Dreamy atmosphere, languid singing in French, then towards the middle the rhythm accelerates, the vocals become aggressive, the song comes to life, then comes the electric guitar solo, finally the singing returns, all takes place on a carpet of keyboards, and the electric guitar returns again and then the vocals, the final structure is rather narrative, based on the lyrics. 3) Grobschnitt: Severity Town. This group is the only one of which I had heard some songs, the only one I know (little) of this selection. So, after a Dutch group, and a French one, here is a German group. Very fabulous music, with initial music box, with a percussive carpet of jazz drums. This is definitely a mini-suite in fact towards the middle there is a change of pace, now the music becomes Teutonic, adding street noises. The underlying influences to this group are really many (from space rock to Gentle Giant style math rock). The music becomes rockblues, the vocals become aggressive, the changes of tempo and atmosphere follow each other without respite, we breath prog to the nth degree. Acted fabulous ending, almost a la Donovan. A lot of good meat on the fire, perhaps too much. 4) Saga: Humble Stance. From Canada with fury. I've never heard them. We are in the new wave era, you can hear it from the rhythm and the production. This music seems more German than the previous one! Very marching style, carpet of keyboards or synths, quite commercial sound (in itself it is not a defect or a merit), in fact we are in the prog crossover, then a rather powerful guitar solo. Not easy to sequence these songs, I would say that the first two are very close to each other, the third is the most elaborate in the prog sense, the most ambitious, the last is the least prog, easier to listen to but also powerful. I'm sure I like Ange's song a little bit more than Alquin's, the problem is where to put Grobschnitt's: first or third? I put it first, long live to the prog! 1) Grobschnitt - 5 points 2) Ange - 3 points 3) Alquin - 2 points 4) Saga - 1 point.
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 17:54 |
Yes, no problem, we like to listen to music... and we would love to have you with us... if you want to partecipate, please select 4 songs from you list and listen to the other lists.
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Posted: July 14 2022 at 20:47 |
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A bit tricky as I post these from my phone. I might add some commentary later.
Be Bop Deluxe - No Trains to Heaven (1974) FM - Black Noise (1978) Colosseum II - The Scorch (1977) Utopia - Overture: The Mountaintop and Sunrise / Communion with the Sun (1977) I will need some time to rate the others. Some of these are not showing up for me by being in the U.S. Darn it YouTube. Edited by mathman0806 - July 15 2022 at 19:22 |
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Posted: July 15 2022 at 02:50 |
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@Nick and Friede: Which four of your five suggestions are your candidates for this poll (for our points distribution...)? @Nick: The vid for Dragon does not work for me (and maybe some others); this one does. @Jean: same regarding Can's Splash, this one works. @George: I guess you mean Colosseum II (and not "Colossus" - you have to teach your phone some prog language...); this one works for me. |
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Posted: July 15 2022 at 03:00 |
Haha. Yes. And the one in your link works for me so I will update. |
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