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Give me your top list of endgame prog artists |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21343 |
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I personally have a bunch of stuff I'd consider at the edges of my personal collection but they are certainly not the endgame, I'm continuing to explore. |
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Ian
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20033 |
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Yep, I understand end game, I know what a rabbit hole is, I've read Alice in Wonderland, I'm just not sure what he's asking in terms of prog artists and albums.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12490 |
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I'm not sure what this means, but in my endless search for... I fell down the rabbit hole and came home with this: (The cover for Randy Greif: Alice in Wonderland Part 2, 1991) ![]() In 1988 Randy Greif found an old 3 LP audio book of Lewis Carroll's 'Alice
in Wonderland' which he used for the experimental manipulation of
vocals for his five part, six hour long renidition. All parts were originally released on five cassettes. All conscientiously reviewed by Dobermensch here on PA. Often explained like this: ...Always considered a children's story, it's incredible to think how dark
and frankly disturbing it can be when put in the hands of a madman. Jan
Svankmajer's masterful animation from
'88 is a case in point. The elements have always been there with which
to create a Syd Barret acid smashed dreamscape. A swirling keyboard, subdued but clear, makes way for more damaged
spoken vocals in 'Shall I Try the Experiment'. This time they are slowed
down, creating a very dark and
unsettling atmosphere - almost like having cathedral gargoyles hanging
over your shoulders in impending doom. There's so many great lines that
take on an unexpected air of
menace throughout. One of my favourites is "I'm doubtful about the
temperament of your flamingo". Simple. But totally bonkers... (from his review of part four) Part two opens with The Caucus Race which accidently sound like Can in Wonderland and a stroke of fairytale kraut-motorik genius: Edited by Saperlipopette! - June 27 2022 at 13:22 |
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I'm not that far down the rabbit hole on anything in my life , but if I understand the gist then for me two that come to mind are..... the Legendary Pink Dots and Motorpsycho.
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I think there was a Criminal Minds episode with that name. The one where Spencer Reid's girlfriend gets offed.
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Me, too! I went straight for the connection to the game of chess--with the possible meaning that which players would you want at the end to do battle with. I wish the OPer would chime in to further explain his "obvious" introduction. |
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this is another album dealing with chess: |
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Peter Hammill Fool's mate
Peter Hammill back cover of Chameleon in the shadow of there night both show PH in front of a chess board Edited by mellotronwave - June 27 2022 at 17:02 |
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Once you've reached this, there's really nowhere left to go.
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The chess endgame is the most highly technical and skilled part of chess that requires serious practice to master it. For example try and mate someone with just a king,knight and bishop versus king. It can be done but I've seen very good players fail at it. Does that help?
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Even grandmasters regularly practice this. There is a certain point where a kind of "W" maneuver has to be made; make a mistake there and you won't be able to do it within 50 moves anymore (counting the moves you already made). The most difficult endgames are the ones with only rooks and pawns left on both sides.
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For anyone who knows chess notation, here's the shortest possible game of chess:-
1. f3 e5 2. g4 Qh4 mate And my quickest win against a computer:- 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Nc3 Nxc3 5. dxc3 f6 6. Nh4 g6 7. Nf5 gxf5 8. Qh5+ Ke7 9. Qf7+ Kd6 10. Qd5+ Ke7 11. Bg5 Nc6 12. Qf7+ Kd6 13. 0-0-0+ Nd4 14. Rxd4+ exd4 15. Qd5+ Ke7 16. Re1 mate! I still have no idea what an endgame prog artist is though.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29593 |
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totally true indeed
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29593 |
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Bravo Paul. That game actually makes me want to get the chess set out. I know its a Petroff defence and that white is playing a gambit line. I've never seen it before and I used to play a lot!
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45776 |
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The off-topicness here is a bit ridiculous.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43665 |
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The thread has gone off-topic because none of us are quite sure what the topic is supposed to be about, other than a cryptic reference to a chess endgame.
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Both of these have quite some rabbit holes on their own. Not sure this is what the thread is asking for, but this is the answer that makes most sense for me.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45776 |
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Thank you Captain Obvious, Sir!
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