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    Posted: May 07 2022 at 03:55

Progressive Rock meta-genre's top 50 of the 2010's 

This list is made in January 2020 on basis of all the ratings on RateYourMusic and ProgArchives 

but only 1 (studio) album from each band is included. The averages of all the ratings are 

weighted according to the number of raters on RYM and PA respectively, and then recalculated to 15-scale.

 

Steven Wilson  (UK) :   The Raven that Refused to Sing  (2013)   11,5 (6600 r.)

Anathema  (UK) :   Weather Systems  (2012)   11,1 (3800 r.)

King Gizzard…  (Aust) :   Polygondwanaland  (2017)   10,8 (4400 r.)

Opeth  (S) :   Pale Communion  (2014)   10,7 (4400 r.)

Rush  (CAN) :   Clorkwork Angels  (2012)   10,9 (3700 r.)

Haken  (UK) :   The Mountain  (2013)   11,5 (2900 r.)

Riverside  (PL) :   Shrine of a New Generation Slaves  (2013)   11,2 (2700 r.)

IQ  (UK) :   The Road of Bones  (2014)   11,9 (1900 r.)

Ne Obliviscaris  (Aust) :   Portal of I  (2012)   11,1 (2600 r.)

Blood Incantation  (US) :   Hidden History of the Human Race  (2019)   11,0 (2800 r.)

Leprous  (N) :   The Congregation  (2015)   11,2 (2300 r.)

Enslaved  (N) :   Axioma Ethica Odini  (2010)   11,1 (2500 r.)

Änglagård  (S) :   Viljans Öga  (2012)   12.1 (1800 r.)

Dream Theater  (US) :   A Dramatic Turn of Events  (2011)   10,0 (4300 r.)

Gojira  (F) :   L’enfant Sauvage  (2012)   10,6 (2800 r.)

Between the Buried and Me  (US) :   The Parallax II:

                                                                          Future Sequence  (2012)   10,9 (2300 r.)

Devin Townsend Project  (CAN) :   Deconstruction  (2011)   10,9 (2300 r.)

Big Big Train  (UK) :   English Electric (Part 1)  (2012)   12,2 (1500 r.)

 

Wobbler  (N) :   From Silence to Somewhere  (2017)   12,1 (1200 r.)

Phideaux  (US) :   Snowtorch  (2011)   12,0 (1200 r.)

The Flower Kings  (S) :   Banks of Eden  (2012)   11,7 (1200 r.)

Anekdoten  (S) :   Until All the Ghosts Are Gone  (2015)   11,6 (1300 r.)

Ihsahn  (N) :   After  (2010)   11,1 (1700 r.)

Ayreon  (NL) :   The Theory of Everything  (2013)   11,0 (1500 r.)

The Ocean  (D) :   Pelagial  (2013)   10,9 (1700 r.)

Discipline  (US) :   To Shatter All Accord  (2011)   12,1 (1000 r.)

Camel  (UK) :   The Snow Goose (Re-recording)  (2013)   12,1 (900 r.)

All Traps on Earth  (S) :   A Drop of Light  (2018)   12,4 (700 r.)

Motorpsycho  (N):   The Death Defying Unicorn  (2012)   11,8 (900 r.)

Spock’s Beard  (US) :   Brief Nocturness and Dreamless Sleep  (2013)   11,5 (1100 r.)

Iamthemorning  (Rus) :   ~  (2012)   11,5 (1000 r.)

 

The Dear Hunter  (US) :   Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise  (2015)   11,2 (1200 r.)

Kayo Dot  (US) :   Hubardo  (2013)   10,9 (1400 r.)

Thy Catafalque  (HUN) :   Rengeteg  (2011)   11,2 (1100 r.)

Amorphis  (FIN) :   Under the Red Cloud  (2015)   10,8 (1300 r.)

Anubis  (Aust) :   A Tower of Silence  (2011)   11,9 (700 r.)

Birds and Buildings  (US) :   Multipurpose Trap  (2013)   12,0 (600 r.)

Echolyn  (US):   Echolyn  (2012)   11,8 (700 r.)

Comedy of Errors  (UK) :   Fanfare & Fantasy  (2013)   11,7 (700 r.)

Airbag  (N) :   All Rights Removed  (2011)   11,6 (800 r.)

Neal Morse  (US) :   Testimony 2  (2011)   11,5 (900 r.)

Beardfish  (S) :   Mammoth  (2011)   11,3 (1000 r.)

Threshold  (UK) :   March of Progress  (2012)   11,3 (1000 r.)

Hypnos 69  (B) :   Legacy  (2010)   11,5 (800 r.)

Magma  (F) :   Félicité Thösz  (2012)   11,5 (800 r.)

Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Genesis Revisited II  (2012)   11,4 (800 r.)

Arch/Matheos  (US) :   Sympathetic Resonance  (2011)   11,4 (800 r.)

Seven Impale  (N) :   City of the Sun  (2014)   11,6 (600 r.)

Diablo Swing Orchestra  (S) :   Pandora’s Piñata  (2012)   10,9 (1200 r.)

Myrath  (Tunisia) :   Tales of the Sands  (2011)   11,0 (1000 r.)

Thank You Scientist  (US) :   Maps of Non-existent Places  (2012)   11,0 (900 r.)

Koenji Hyakkei  (J) :   Dhorimviskha  (2018)   10,6 (1100 r.)

Caligula’s Horse  (Aust) :   Bloom  (2015)   11,1 (700 r.)


This album should have been included in the list:

Vektor  (USA) : Terminal Redux  (2016)


USA 15 bands in all, UK 9, S and N 7, Aust 4, CAN and F 2, PL, NL, D, Rus, HUN, 

FIN, B, Tun and J 1 each


The definition of Progressive Rock as a meta-genre, I've used as a basis for this list, is following:

1. be a synthesis/fusion of Rock (significantly present) and at least one of other "main genres": 

Classical, Jazz, Folk, electronic avant-garde or other avant-garde, AND

2. be rather complex or at least to some extent experimental in another way than #1.

”electronic avant-garde” is here primarily Musique Concrete and Minimalism while 

”other avant-garde” include Free and Avant-Jazz and Contemporary Classical.

For the full description and considerations regarding this definition look here

How to define and classify Progressive Rock?



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I still don't understand the purpose of lists like this if and when one skews it away from the whole! (That is, the self-imposed "1 [one] studio album per band" limitation.) It automatically discounts its value by excluding some of the greatest/highest rated albums from the very period you're sampling. What's the point???ConfusedDisapprove

You're just recognizing and applauding 50 bands instead of the 50 "best/highest rated" albums, so why even include album titles? Just list the artist names and be done with it. Silliness…

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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

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You're just recognizing and applauding 50 bands instead of the 50 "best/highest rated" albums, so why even include album titles? Just list the artist names and be done with it. Silliness…


Hi,

To be honest with you, and I don't want to sound cynical, it is my thought (my THOUGHT) that any person doing these numbers is not a listener anyway ... and it's really hard to tell people that, after 500 film reviews (foreign film) I have a hard time choosing a "favorite" or a "top chit". 

Add to the idea/fact, that I seriously doubt that some of those folks even bother listening to the earlier material anyway to make the distinction that you suggest. At least I could easily say that you have seen a few Bunuel films to make your comments, or Lean films ... but to simply vote for something without even knowing it or having any idea what it is about? 

It's called the mememememe generation and they don't care. It's all about the socialism in it all and them thinking they are a part of it all! 

They don't even realize what an oxymoron "progressive" is for them when they post stuff like that!


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Well, guys, we look very differently at it. 
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I love the idea of limiting the Top 50 list to just one album per artist. If it wasn't for that rule, then my own personal Top 50 list would include all of Mostly Autumn's 26 albums. Tongue
 
 
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I appreciate the time and effort it took to create this list. Thanks, David.
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thanks, Grumpy, and Paul  Smile







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These are the albums I know and love from the above list:-

Änglagård  (S) :   Viljans Öga  (2012) 
Steven Wilson  (UK) :   The Raven that Refused to Sing  (2013)
IQ  (UK) :   The Road of Bones  (2014) 
Big Big Train  (UK) :   English Electric (Part 1)  (2012) 
Ayreon  (NL) :   The Theory of Everything  (2013) 
Camel  (UK) :   The Snow Goose (Re-recording)  (2013) 
Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Genesis Revisited II  (2012) 



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The ones I enjoy from the list are:
Steven Wilson, Rush, Haken, Big Big Train, Wobbler, Discipline, Spock's Beard, Echolyn and Caligula's Horse.

My favorite from the list is: Thank You Scientist.


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A rather nice selection. I found only four bands by which I should have picked another album. Most notable is Kayo Dot: Coffins on Io or Blasphemy would be a way better choice than Hubardo imho.

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The ones I enjoy from the list (in the order they appear in the list):
 
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard  (Aust) :   Polygondwanaland  (2017)
Haken  (UK) :   The Mountain  (2013)
IQ  (UK) :   The Road of Bones  (2014)
Änglagård  (S) :   Viljans Öga  (2012)
Wobbler  (N) :   From Silence to Somewhere  (2017)
Phideaux  (US) :   Snowtorch  (2011)
All Traps on Earth  (S) :   A Drop of Light  (2018)
Motorpsycho  (N):   The Death Defying Unicorn  (2012)
 

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I love lists like this, especially when I was buying music. Some of my favs. 
All Traps On Earth
Anekdoten
Wobbler
Anglagard
Steven Wilson
Riverside
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Well, guys, we look very differently at it. 

Hi,

You are from a different generation, and you were not amidst the issues that we went through to even find that kind of music. Nowadays, folks look at a place like PA, then choose one or two things, and boom ... "I know progressive music" ... and in all honesty, the moment you say that "you know something or other", you just lost sight of that "knowing" as it is called in some places in high level digital-neuro circles ... and replaced it with an "idea" of your own.

Sure you can say that "we" look very differently at it", sure, I had open eye surgery to save the eye and see double, but it didn't affect my musical story and tastes!

If it's perspective you are looking for, or some consensus ... then you wouldn't create something that is rated in the devil's circles, or in god's circles ... it makes no difference, but it is much easier to support the hollow idea with those numbers that mean nothing to a real artist!

You got to take a larger interest in the ART OF IT ALL. Is about the only thing I like to say ... that's not an "idea" ... it's a reality about people and their work!

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I love lists like this, especially when I was buying music. Some of my favs. 
...

And for the record, most of us from those days, never had a list, and never saw one. We bought it from the covers, from the titles, from the names of the pieces ... and for me, and even Space Pirate Radio, how it showed its art ... and it has been an important part of this music world. It's just bizarre to me that one has to have a "list" to find something or MEET a new something ... it's a new world (so to speak) and you either meet it with a smile, or go find a list that didn't exist at the time.

Moby Disk had thousands of titles, and the only "album" showing, was the one that was being played, and a couple on the wall. Rasputin's was impossible. You walked in into a Pacific Ocean of so much, that if you had a list you would be better served to use it for toilet paper! The three floors (I think it was three or maybe two) of music at the Warehouse in Westwood, was a veritable ... where do I start?

You have no idea what this means to your discovery of some music, and how it teaches you some independence, and this is the part that you are objecting ... you can't stand not being a part of everyone agreeing with you! And then you like "progressive music" and don't even realize that it came up from that opposite, and the folks that handled it were less worried about your ideas than they were in theirs ... go ahead ... criticize and "support" your article that makes you feel bigger and better!


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I didn't start collecting Prog until around 2005 and there was lots of these lists that I constantly poured over to find the next great record. Lists like this plus reviews certainly made it a lot easier for me to find what I was looking for. I'm glad I started late for this reason because I couldn't go into a record store and buy and album based solely on it's cover, never done that. I've never had the funds to purchase blindly like that. I do my homework and if I don't it's only me I have to blame.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

And for the record, most of us from those days, never had a list, and never saw one. We bought it from the covers, from the titles, from the names of the pieces ... and for me, and even Space Pirate Radio, how it showed its art ... and it has been an important part of this music world. It's just bizarre to me that one has to have a "list" to find something or MEET a new something ... it's a new world (so to speak) and you either meet it with a smile, or go find a list that didn't exist at the time.

There's another load of revisionist bullsh*t to add to the pile of Mosh manure myth. Billboard lists have been around forever, even before you were hatched, Ducky. Creem, Rolling Stone, Circus, Beat and Crawdaddy all had lists, in addition to articles regarding new artists and trends. Lists of artists and albums have been around for a century. It is just presented in a different and more extensive medium today. You. Are. Not. Special.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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There's another load of revisionist bullsh*t to add to the pile of Mosh manure myth. Billboard lists have been around forever, even before you were hatched, Ducky. Creem, Rolling Stone, Circus, Beat and Crawdaddy all had lists, in addition to articles regarding new artists and trends. Lists of artists and albums have been around for a century. It is just presented in a different and more extensive medium today. You. Are. Not. Special.

Hi,

You are into pop music, STILL. There was no listing for "progressive" music in those days. Many of those "lists" came later. The only lists in the late 60's were that which the record companies decided was the top stuff so you bought it. And places like Moby Disk, for as much as they had in "imports" never had a list that I could find ... they just played stuff straight out ... and it was a treat. But you wouldn't know that, and would not believe it, of course, because your reality is the truth and everyone else is crap.

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I can tell that the last 15 years, I've made many top lists of different countries and periods of time with the purpose to 
become knowledgeable about the most appreciated albums and bands, and that due to:
1. explore and find albums and bands, I could like
2. as a part of my work as "music journalist"
3. simply because I've been curious and liked to do it.

The last couple of years, I've published some of these top lists, being convinced about that many other people can make
good use of them, too - and I can assure that it takes a lot of time to make lists like that. It ain't easy in other ways, either. Star


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I can tell that the last 15 years, I've made many top lists of different countries and periods of time with the purpose to 
become knowledgeable about the most appreciated albums and bands, and that due to:
1. explore and find albums and bands, I could like
2. as a part of my work as "music journalist"
3. simply because I've been curious and liked to do it.
...

Hi,

To be honest, I never ever created a list of things that I "wanted to hear" since I knew that things tended to "come to me" just as much as I "came to them" ... and this helped create the excitement of not knowing much about a lot of new things, which to me, has always been important, and the main reason why another record by any band is often not the best idea for me. I like the diversity and the differences.

I like to explore the "universe", not to become some sort of a "music journalist", which I do not consider myself to be one, and would not want to be one of them, although some folks that have posted in some other threads here about film, will definitely say something very different about my discussions of film and its details, when most people can only say they like it or they don't. FOR ME, it is all about the details that make it valuable, and a lot of "lists" and "top of the poop" stuff is not valuable in that too much is repeated and there is a very small variation in the styles and types of music.

The list above, is a nice one, I would never doubt that, but I have to tell you that 55 years ago, I learned about my tastes and touches, without a single list. And for me, it is the only way to FIND music that really shines, because one or two things will simply blow your mind like LSD never could!
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Know most of these bands, but far from all of the albums. A lot of those albums on the list, I know I'll will never give a listen.

I really like these:

King Gizzard :   Polygondwanaland
Blood Incantation:   Hidden History of the Human Race +
Kayo Dot:   Hubardo
...is good

btw: Swans - To Be Kind
is RYMs no. 1 album for 2014 (all genres included)
-has 268 reviews, over 22000 ratings and a 4.00 average  




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My own favourite on this list is

Hypnos 69  (B) :   Legacy  (2010)   11,5 (800 r.)
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