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    Posted: April 01 2022 at 18:10
For best I will say 1971,72 and 73. For worst I will say 82, 83 and 84. I think by 85 the neo prog scene started to pick up but if someone were to say a little later I could see that too. 

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For best I will say 1971,72 and 73. For worst I will say 82, 83 and 84. I think by 85 the neo prog scene started to pick up but if someone were to say a little later I could see that too. 

Are you being genre-specific? Tangerine Dream, Rush, King Crimson, Saga and Goblin (except Volo) kicked serious arse in those years. So did a few other bands.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For best I will say 1971,72 and 73. For worst I will say 82, 83 and 84. I think by 85 the neo prog scene started to pick up but if someone were to say a little later I could see that too. 

Are you being genre-specific? Tangerine Dream, Rush, King Crimson, Saga and Goblin (except Volo) kicked serious arse in those years. So did a few other bands.

I meant overall. KC's best from the 80's was Discipline from 81 (imo).
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^^ Crimson in '81, Saga '81, Rush '82 for sure.   But I can't say Beat or Grace Under Pressure or Silent Knight were nearly as good.





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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For best I will say 1971,72 and 73. For worst I will say 82, 83 and 84. I think by 85 the neo prog scene started to pick up but if someone were to say a little later I could see that too. 

Are you being genre-specific? Tangerine Dream, Rush, King Crimson, Saga and Goblin (except Volo) kicked serious arse in those years. So did a few other bands.
I meant overall. KC's best from the 80's was Discipline from 81 (imo).

I love Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair.

A lot of great electronic music was released throughout the decade. I know it's not everyone's bag, but it's all prog to me.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^^ Crimson in '81, Saga '81, Rush '82 for sure.   But I can't say Beat or Grace Under Pressure or Silent Knight were nearly as good.

Silent Knight is 1980 and, IMO, is Saga's finest hour. Clap

Grace Under Pressure is awesome, probably the one that gets the most spins here nowadays.
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Ah, a GUP man, that's cool.  You're not alone... amazingly.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For best I will say 1971,72 and 73. For worst I will say 82, 83 and 84. I think by 85 the neo prog scene started to pick up but if someone were to say a little later I could see that too. 

Hi,

I'm not sure there was a "worst" year for the prog scene. Many folks continued just fine, like Peter Hammill and VdGG and a lot of other folks, that we did not pay attention to because they were not listed in the top five of anything.

Music never died, and the sooner we wake up to that idea, the better. Music is constantly evolving and changing, and it would only be different in that it did not sound the same, but then, if we didn't like Marillion in those days, because everyone thought Fish sounded like PG ... which was not a good comparison at all ... Fish was a much better actor and story teller than PG was ... but PG attained a level of fame that allowed him to make us think he was better. I don't think of him, or Fish, as better or worse than anyone. They were very different in their approach, although I think that PG became just a pop singer, as opposed to Fish that did not exactly conform to that much.

As for "best" years, it's really hard to not pay attention to when it really busted out ... it was not only impressive, but magnificent. Unfortunately it was right after that that the "media" took control of things and started making sure that some sold more than others ... which didn't help later in the early 80's, but I see that a lot of music came up, all new at that time, that we did not exactly have ears for ... only now, with the Internet and crazy folks mentioning oddball stuff from yesteryear, are many of those folks getting some well deserved attention.
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Best? Depends on my mood really and could be quite a number of years. Worst? S’gotta be 1943, 1944 and 1945. Almost mentioned 56 but then I remembered the poll I saw here yesterday.
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I’m kind of with Pedro here, in that I don’t really believe there was ever a worst year. I guess I could go through my collection and find the year(s) with the least prog albums, but even then I still wouldn’t feel comfortable calling them the worst years.

As for the best years, I think they are now and yet to come. Prog may not be as mainstream as it was in the inevitable ‘70s years of the classic era that will be given as best by many, but it is far more accepted and prevalent now. Bands and artists from quite disparate genres are making some quite wonderful prog albums. Simply because there are more genres now, and music across a far wider spectrum than in the ‘70s, there is far more scope for prog.  2020 and 2021 were amazing years for prog - in part because of covid lockdowns, necessity being the mother of invention and all that.

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Best 3 Years for Prog:- 1971; 1972; 1973

Worst 3 Years for Prog:- 1980; 1981; 1982
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best: 67 until 77StarStarStarStarStarClapClapClapClapClap

Worst: since 77 LOL

More seriously, though ErmmStern Smile

Worst: 85 until 90 PinchPinchPinch

a few years since have also not been good
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Worst: 85 until 90 PinchPinchPinch


Depends who you ask. 85 to 90 saw the creation and developing (for lack of a better word) of the progressive metal genre, so not bad at all if you ask me. 
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2019 was the best year of prog for me.
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When looking at the top 160 all-time, I made in 2019 on basis of all the ratings on RYM and PA,
I'd say, the best three years are 1972-74 while the worst years are the second half of the 2010's.
( http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127673 )




Edited by David_D - April 02 2022 at 04:36
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Best: 
1971 ("Everybody: Get on Board!"), 
1981 ("New Possibilities"--thank you King Crimson, Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays, Art Zoyd, SBB, Univers Zero, Anthony Phillips, and Eskaton), 
2009 ("The Perfect Storm"--thanks to Toby Driver, Mariuz Duda, Xavier Phideaux, Leprous, Arcane, Mastodon, Patrick Forgas, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, Townsend, Shamall, The Trigaux Brothers, Von Hertzen Brothers, Norway, Dave Longdon, Christian Vander, Jean-Pierre Louveton, IOEarth, Karnivool, Miriodor, The Decemberists, Delirium, Anubis, Izz, Judy Dyble, Colossus/Musea, Pinkroom, Kotebel, Votum, Subsignal, Rishloo, Fen, Vienna Circle, Toe, Epica, Solstafir, Martigan, and so many more)

Worst: 1991, 1982, 1995

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Best 3 Years for Prog:- 1971; 1972; 1973

Worst 3 Years for Prog:- 1980; 1981; 1982

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Worst: 85 until 90 PinchPinchPinch

Depends who you ask. 85 to 90 saw the creation and developing (for lack of a better word) of the progressive metal genre, so not bad at all if you ask me.

That's right, buddy. Classic albums all around from the likes of Dream Theater, Fates Warning, King's X, Queensr˙che, Savatage and Watchtower.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^^ Crimson in '81, Saga '81, Rush '82 for sure.   But I can't say Beat or Grace Under Pressure or Silent Knight were nearly as good.

Silent Knight is 1980 and, IMO, is Saga's finest hour. Clap

Grace Under Pressure is awesome, probably the one that gets the most spins here nowadays.

I can't say I am crazy about any Saga album but "Silent Knight" is my favourite for the closing track alone
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