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Psychedelic Paul 
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KINGFISHER SKY: a Dutch band at the opposite end of the Symphonic Metal spectrum to Therion. In other words, Kingfisher Sky's melodic albums are actually very listenable.
  2007: Kingfisher Sky - Hallway of Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgcMOhggy8Jt0xBsyXeQtaCQfTsjATMWIEdited by Psychedelic Paul - March 29 2022 at 01:47 |
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You're dissing Therion again because they started as a death metal band. In 1991, there was no symphonic metal so your post makes no sense. You're comparing oranges to potatoes here. Also Therion became very melodic once they became symphonic. Without the success of Theli and Vovin, there wouldn't be much symphonic metal as a genre.
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Posted: March 29 2022 at 02:41 |
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^ Don't worry, I haven't turned a deaf ear to your entreaties in support of Therion. It's thanks to you and Logan's support that Therion are still here in the poll when I came close to dumping them altogether after hearing their dreadful Death Metal debut. By the way, Therion's first album was released on Deaf Records, which seems very appropriate, considering it's about as welcome as a nuclear blast.
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Deaf Records is probably a joke name - deaf-death. To a non-native English speaker, might sound the same. I would never call music I dislike "dreadful". Disliking it is more than enough.  I would call "dreadful" an artist (or genre) I usually like that has released something I find bad, weak, uninspired etc. |
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Okay, instead of "dreadful", I'll say I disliked Therion's first album intensely. How's that?
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I know you dislike it, I don't even know why you listened to it in the first place when you were warned it's a death metal album.
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^ Therion's debut was the first Death Metal album I've ever listened to, and it'll most likely be the last Death Metal album I ever listen to, till deaf us do part.
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Again, this is pointless sarcasm on your part, stating the obvious.
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You're focusing on the negative again. My original point was that Kingfisher Sky are surprisingly gentle and melodic and altogether more listenable than some of the noisier bands I've heard at the opposite end of the Symphonic Metal spectrum.
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Maybe you wanted to say this, but it came out wrong (and it did for me). Also Therion's debut is not the opposite end of symphonic metal. Maybe some beauty and the beast type of symphonic gothic.
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I don't hear any beauty in Therion's debut and it's not remotely symphonic. It's just beastly.
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Not what I meant. "Beauty and the beast" means the music features a female vocalist, gentle, angelic - beauty and the beast means male vocals, they can be clen but also extreme (raspier, growly). Early 90s gothic-doom bands experimented with that until later on it became a thing. An album you would probably enjoy is Théâtre of Tragedy - Aegis from 1998. It's the band that made Liv Kristine famous, but then again TOT is one of the most influential bands for both gothic metal and symphonic metal.
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^ I thought Leaves' Eyes was the band that made Liv Kristine famous, so I just learned something new today.
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Quite active singer/musician. |
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Thanks for the info. It's a tragedy I didn't know Liv Kristine had performed in so many bands, including Theatre of Tragedy.
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I'm not sure how the first two Theatre of tragedy will go with you because there are growls, yet it's melodic music. The contrast of the gentle and extreme vocals is done right. But Aegis especially should please you, they gave up on the extreme vocals and the male vocals are clean. They also released two synth-pop/darkwave/electronic albums, last two with Liv on vocals. Quite a shocking change of style for many, yet not bad on their own.
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^ I'll give Theatre of Tragedy a listen, starting with the song below, which reminds me of Madonna for some strange reason. I knew Liv Kristine wouldn't let me down.
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urgh, how is it reminding you of Madonna?  This sound is called electro-goth, darkwave-gothic. Also Liv Kristine is a better singer than Madonna ever was.
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The video reminds me of Madonna because "Let You Down" sounds like a curious hybrid of Gothic Metal and Dance-Pop, which isn't such a tragedy as I'm a big fan of Madonna too.
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I can't stand Madonna. Never did, I think I find two of her songs listenable. Not exactly dance pop the TOT song, it's not exclusively meant for dancing. It's synth pop influenced, i explained what it is in my earlier post.
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