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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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The Revolutionary Army of the Infant Jesus are a psychedelic neofolk collective from Liverpool, England, formed in 1985. Named after a terrorist group from Spanish director Luis Buñuel's 1977 film, That Obscure Object of Desire, the band were founded by Jon Egan (vocals/guitar/harmonium), David Seddon (keyboards/tenor saxophone), Paul Boyce (vocals/keyboard/clarinet), Sue Boyce (vocals/flute) and Leslie Hampson (vocals/percussion/guitar). A more aesthetically tenebrous proposition than the Trees Community before them, the Revolutionary Army's Christian mysticism informs their ethereal, genre-blurring sacred music, mixing kraut-folk, tribal ambient, darkwave and neoclassical approaches. Their album imagery and lyrics are inspired by Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Anglican traditions and sung in English, French, Latin, Greek and Russian. The collective's music is also littered with field recordings and samples taken from Spanish poets, records of eastern European propaganda broadcasts and excerpts from European surrealist films by Jean Cocteau and Andrei Tarkovsky. The Revolutionary Army have received a variety of comparisons to the mystical folk of Dead Can Dance, Woven Hand and Current 93 to composers Henryk Górecki, Ennio Morricone, Gavin Bryars and Arvo Pärt, as well as Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Popol Vuh, Pink Floyd and late-era Talk Talk. The collective are animated by the decline of spirituality with the rise of secular capitalism while also explicitly distancing themselves from the right-wing and fascistic elements of the neofolk genre. Supported by an ever-changing cast of guest musicians, the collective earned their cult following through their two acclaimed LPs, 1987's The Gift of Tears and 1991's Mirrors, the latter of which featuring the alto saxophone textures of organist Bill Dawson. The Revolutionary Army followed up Mirror with two EPs, 1993's La Liturgie pour la fin du Temps and 1995's Paradis before entering a prolonged hiatus. After nearly twenty years of dormancy, the French label Infrastition invited the collective to have their discography re-released, and a retrospective box set, After the End, followed in 2013. Riding the momentum of the renewed interest in their work, the collective issued their third album, Beauty Will Save the World, in 2015, with the Revolutionary Army now reduced to its core members Egan, Hampson and Paul Boyce and a new array of session players. 2020 saw the release of sister albums Songs of Yearning and Nocturnes. ![]() "The Gift of Tears" (1987) "Mirror" (1991) "Beauty Will Save the World" (2015) "Songs of Yearning" (2020) "Nocturnes" (2020)
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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Write-ups at the Progressive Aspect...
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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will investigate ASAP (already started this moring)
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21343 |
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Really like this band
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Ian
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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I'm glad to hear; I was considering assigning them to RIO/Avant (a la Księżyc) before settling on PF. I think I like Mirror the most, along with a smattering of tracks from their reunion years (they definitely connect with me more than Dead Can Dance, whom I wish I liked more). Hugues and Ken: any thoughts?
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9093 |
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Initial thoughts from listening to "Mirror" were not positive as far as hearing the folk but I hear more of it in "Songs of Yearning". I'll try a bit more tomorrow
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9093 |
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based on Nocturnes and Songs of Yearning, I would say yes. Hugues?
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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Awesome. I think I still hold Mirror in high regard though their new work is certainly more mature and consistent in its approach (and their version of "Ave Maria" is hands down the best thing they've done). So yeah, curious to hear what Hugues thinks.
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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Gentle bump!
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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Yeah, this slipped my mind.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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I'm sure the band would find that apropos!
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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TBH, it's not a straight Prog Folk inclusion again we're being proposed here. This project is again a bit more darkwave/gothic like DCD is (and since DCD is in PF) I don't here much "folk" in there. It(s one of the elements for sure but hardly a main ingredient of the soup, especially on Mirrors.
Their early albums are not convincing me for PF inclusion, but the latter two definitely more so: especially Nocturnes - but Yearning a tad less so. I'd say a weak yes for PF, but I'd be more tempted to say that if this was presented to RIO/Avant (or another genre solution) and they accepted it, I would feel better about them being in PA under that umbrella than ours.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6049 |
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Well, thank you for this! Started with Nocturnes, now need to go backwards through the discography.
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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Funny how Yearning is such a divisive release. Definitely reasonable points, Hugues; I had a feeling this would be another difficult-to-classify act.
So right now it's Ken with a Yes and Hugues with, shall we say, half a green sphere. Should we toss this to ZART or does the PF team feel comfortable going ahead with the Army?
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9093 |
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Gordy, it sounds like Hugues would like RIO/Avant to take the group but would take them if they were rejected by RIO/AVant. I think it likely they will be bounced back here. Do you want to ping that group and see what they think?
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21343 |
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As an avant team member I'd certainly vote to send them back here if they were getting yes votes here, I believe they are a better fit here. I can't speak for my colleagues. I do like them and own a couple of albums.
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Ian
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Gordy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Folk/Eclectic/PSIKE/Metal/Post/Math Team Joined: January 25 2007 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 4354 |
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@ Ken + Ian: I've changed the thread header, I'm excited to see what ZART thinks but I'm glad the PF team left the door open.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21343 |
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I've notified the team.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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Definitely more Prog Folk than any other PA genre. But, as we have seen before, the prog folk team don’t seem to like taking on these more modern British folk acts. So, as frustrating as it could be if I cared enough, it’s unsurprising this is being bounced to another team.
On the plus side, at least this time it appears if they are bounced back they will be accepted by prog folk. Poor old Nature and Organisation ended up in Prog Related, when they should have been a shoo-in for Prog Folk… 🙄 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
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OK, I feel like the bad guy here with everyone aligning against me ![]() I accept other people's informed advised opinion and will say yes for PF without any further adue. ![]() no need to undertake a RIO investigation. ![]() |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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