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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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^^ there you go... same as me, except Paul is now very kindly trying to introduce us to their music, like we've never heard it before...  Ermm
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ there you go... same as me, except Paul is now very kindly trying to introduce us to their music, like we've never heard it before...  Ermm

I listened to early Nightwish a few weeks ago, still my favorite work from them. 
They do nothing much for me after Once. 

Apparently they're working on a new album. Marko has quit the band, left a huge void TBH. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2022 at 14:30
I agree, Wishmaster and Century Child remain my favourite... I saw them in Birmingham on the DPP tour back in 2007, though...
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ well, would I be correct in assuming that when you joined PA 16 years ago, you were already very familiar with Nightwish?
 
Yes, Angels Fall First is one of only four albums I actually own in this poll, but all of the remaining albums are completely new to me, and I can happily drop Dimmu Borgir from the second poll, now I've discovered they don't sound anything like a Symphonic Metal band. The only question now is, who do I replace them with.  Ermm


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ well, would I be correct in assuming that when you joined PA 16 years ago, you were already very familiar with Nightwish?
 
Yes, Angels Fall First is one of the four albums I actually own in this poll, but all of the remaining albums are completely new to me, and I can happily drop Dimmu Borgir from the second poll, now I've discovered they don't sound anything like a Symphonic Metal band. The only question now is, who do I replace them with.  Ermm

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^ Good choice! That's another five albums I have to look forward to listening to. Thumbs Up

                  2010: Diabulus in Musica - Secrets
                  2012: Diabulus in Musica - The Wanderer
                  2014: Diabulus in Musica - Argia 
                  2016: Diabulus in Musica - Dirge for the Archons
                  2020: Diabulus in Musica - Euphonic Entropy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2022 at 15:49
^^ Saw them on the Dirge tour... supporting Leaves Eyes actually... my favourite album of theirs..
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but it's either all or nothing with me, where I'll either listen to all of the albums by a band or none at all, depending on whether or not I like the first album. 

Really glad that's not the logic I employ when listening to new bands.  I tend to just pick any album I can get a hold of and see how it sounds.  Looking at my music collection, there are quite a few bands where, if I had listened to their debut album first, then I probably wouldn't have listened to any more Wink

Imagine listening to "From Genesis to Revelation" and using that as your  judge of all things Genesis LOL
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^ There was a time not so long ago when "From Genesis to Revelation" was my favourite Genesis album. Smile
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I really didn`t know the existence of the symphonic metal genre, moreover many of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire, Kamelot, Edenbridge, Avantasia, Epica, Delain, Symphony X i identify plain and simple as power metal.

Therion first work its old school death metal, similar to other bands in that time like Entombed, Carnage and dismember, and really i dont find any similarity with the aforementioned bands.

Within temptation, After Forever, the italians Lacuna Coil and the norwegians tristania were bands very influenced by The Gathering from the first albums (Always,Almost a Dance, Mandylion) and the norwegian band The Third And The Mortal, at the end of the 90´s to that type of bands we called them, goth metal or doom death metal.

Sirenia and Nightwish (adding classical trained singer, Tarja) appeared some time later, in turn influenced by the aforementioned bands, Evanescence too but adding Nu Metal.

Never like Dimmu Borgir, i prefer bands like Ulver, Enslaved, In The Woods...

I would add a band to this poll called Dreams Of Sanity, i think they would fit in this type of genre.

Really this genre its not my cup of tea, the only band that can barely tolerate its Lacuna Coil (only their debut and sophomore albums) and Ayreon (i consider them plain and simple progressive metal)
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Forget Sophie's Choice and Hobson's Choice, this is Cristi's Choice, so say goodbye to Dimmu Borgir - who have disappeared from here For All Tid (thankfully!) - and say a warm hello to the sound of Diabulus in Musica, but watch out for the cookie monster again! Dead




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2022 at 11:34
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Forget Sophie's Choice and Hobson's Choice, this is Cristi's Choice, so say goodbye to Dimmu Borgir - who have disappeared from here For All Tid (thankfully!) - and say a warm hello to the sound of Diabulus in Musica, but watch out for the cookie monster again! Dead



not my choice, you asked for a band, I gave you an example. 

Who are you warning about cookie monster vocals? You are the only one here disliking it. LOL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvBErXZ1Hc

Paul, you might prefer this...
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Forget Sophie's Choice and Hobson's Choice, this is Cristi's Choice, so say goodbye to Dimmu Borgir - who have disappeared from here For All Tid (thankfully!) - and say a warm hello to the sound of Diabulus in Musica, but watch out for the cookie monster again! Dead



not my choice, you asked for a band, I gave you an example. 

Who are you warning about cookie monster vocals? You are the only one here disliking it. LOL
Well, cookie monster or no cookie monster, I did give Diabulus in Musica's debut a well-deserved 4-star rating, which is more stars than Dimmu Borgir or Opeth will ever get from me. Smile

By the way, how do you know I'm the only one here who's scared of the cookie monster? Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Forget Sophie's Choice and Hobson's Choice, this is Cristi's Choice, so say goodbye to Dimmu Borgir - who have disappeared from here For All Tid (thankfully!) - and say a warm hello to the sound of Diabulus in Musica, but watch out for the cookie monster again! Dead



not my choice, you asked for a band, I gave you an example. 

Who are you warning about cookie monster vocals? You are the only one here disliking it. LOL
Well, cookie monster or no cookie monster, I did give Diabulus in Musica's debut a well-deserved 4-star rating, which is more stars than Dimmu Borgir or Opeth will ever get from me. Smile

By the way, how do you know I'm the only one here who's scared of the cookie monster? Tongue

I don't know how David is with growls, possible he is not into it, but even I dislike a lot o growlers. The other users that posted here are not appalled by growls. 
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4 stars 1997: Rhapsody of Fire - Legendary Tales - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m059E6yqtZftA_wL9BYJoiQ4h4QE1-NWQ
 


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^ Is that Christopher Lee’s band? 😜

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^ Is that Christopher Lee’s band? 😜

I'd better not comment or I might annoy Cristi again. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^ Is that Christopher Lee’s band? 😜

I'd better not comment or I might annoy Cristi again. Tongue

please comment, since when do you worry I'd get annoyed? LOL

Christopher Lee was a guest narrator and singer on one (or two possibly) of Rhapsody's albums (or Rhapsody of Fire who knows, there were 4 line-ups at some point LOL). 

No Rhapsody musicians were in Lee's metal band. So I don't even know where you got the idea that the musicians of Rhapsody were Lee's back up band. 
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^ Okay, if any further proof is needed, here's Christopher Lee performing with Rhapsody, before they became Rhapsody of Fire.  Smile

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