Symphonic Metal: First Album

David_D wrote: I've been thinking of this kind

From Shredded Wheat and Shreddies, it's back to some guitar-shredding and the heavy Metal Opera of Avantasia.

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Having just listened to Ayreon's outstanding debut album for the first time, I'm adding my vote to The Final Experiment - the clear winner in this poll.

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Ayreon were beaten by Riverside in Cristi's first Progressive Metal albums poll, so I'm tempted to dip my toes into Riverside to find out what I've been missing out on all these years.

Edited by David_D - February 23 2022 at 04:24

I think the problem with the above poll has been the inclusion of Ayreon which arguably is the only truly progressive album in an otherwise entirely symph metal oriented poll. Naturally therefore, most PA members will have voted for Ayreon, partly because they like prog... and partly because many forum members will be unfamiliar with many of the other recordings listed. If you has left Ayreon out, the results would have been more interesting.

Jared wrote: I think the problem with the above poll has been the inclusion of Ayreon which arguably is the only truly progressive album in an otherwise entirely symph metal oriented poll. Naturally therefore, most PA members will have voted for Ayreon, partly because they like prog... and partly because many forum members will be unfamiliar with many of the other recordings listed. If you has left Ayreon out, the results would have been more interesting.

Jared wrote: David_D wrote: Interesting for me to read this, Jared, as it gives me a little more understanding of polls.  David, there are lies, damned lies, statistics and then there are Paul's poll's...

 1995: Dimmu Borgir - For All Tid (For All Time) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlIS3q2571o9YBI1a-aT9RD8lOAU1ZCzIOh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear. What were they thinking!?? This is more like Symphonic Metal Hell than Symphonic Metal Heaven, and with that in mind, it's best to toss this dreadful album into the depths of Hell where it belongs For All Time. 

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - February 26 2022 at 02:12

^ I was being generous in giving Dimmu Borgir's debut  a 2-star rating. The singer was dreadful, although to call him a "singer" is giving him far too much credit. A few singing lessons wouldn't go amiss, instead of growling his way through an entire album. 

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - February 26 2022 at 02:34

Cristi wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: ^ I was being generous in giving Dimmu Borgir's debut  a 2-star rating. The singer was dreadful, although to call him a "singer" is giving him far too much credit. A few singing lessons wouldn't go amiss, instead of growling his way through an entire album.  That's probably the first and last time I'll listen to any Black Metal and thanks for the warning about Therion. You deserve a thumbs-up for that.   Black metal vocals are different from death metal ones.  The thing is that I bet the Dimmu Borgir vocalist can actually sing, but that kind of vocals he did there is a choice and definitely not easy to do. Same case for death metal growls. Just saying. And I do not like Dimmu Borgir, not my thing. Both subgenres are a hit and miss with me.