Prog Band you tried to get in to , but can't.

Cambus741 wrote: Agree about Zappa I tried as well.

Dream Theater. I have never made it all the way through one of their albums.
Spock's Beard, Glass Hammer and The Flower Kings all leave me cold, but I find them forgettable rather than objectionable.
Closer to my own preferred genres, I have never got into Cardiacs although they tick plenty of boxes for me.

Blacksword wrote: Dream Theater: Great musicians, but no stand out music for my ears. They sound to me like a blend of Rush, Metallica and Iron Maiden tribute acts.

Progishness wrote: moshkito wrote: I may not like something with fervour BUT I WILL not state that it has no value whatsoever, or that it is not interesting. As an example, I am not a "fan" of Gentle Giant, but their musicianship and creativity is over the top and I have 7 or 8 of their albums from the start! The quality of the music design is fearless and crazy at the same time.  Sorry to appear a bit dim, but why are you buying albums that you don't like?

Edited by moshkito - January 12 2022 at 07:38

moshkito wrote: Progishness wrote: moshkito wrote: I may not like something with fervour BUT I WILL not state that it has no value whatsoever, or that it is not interesting. As an example, I am not a "fan" of Gentle Giant, but their musicianship and creativity is over the top and I have 7 or 8 of their albums from the start! The quality of the music design is fearless and crazy at the same time.  Sorry to appear a bit dim, but why are you buying albums that you don't like? Hi, It doesn't have to do with "like" or "dislike". It's like you saying that you got rid of that Picasso because it was crap. Or you didn't buy it when it was cheap and available.  I don't judge music by likes and dislikes. Same with classical music ... there simply is way too much for anyone to think that their like and their dislike is what matters in the arts! The arts, for all intents and purposes are about breaking barriers and new ideas ... not your like or dislike. And THIS is the part that most fans can not handle ... their likes and dislikes don't matter, except some of the obvious type of prostitution out there that is just like what the old record companies we hate did! I appreciate GG for their amazing ingenuity in creating music. Very simple. And their concert I saw was magnificent, and an experience that most folks these days could not even imagine, and get fake stage shows with silly pyrotechnics to make you think it was great! They, just about had no light show, and did not need it! You gotta hand it to them ... that is amazing at a time when everyone is trying to be cool'er and more attractive than anyone else! GG just did their thing!

Your dismissing the emotional impact of music on the individual listener, in favour of an almost mathematical evaluation of the bands creative and technical skills. Both the subjective and objective evaluation of music are equally valid. Music is supposed to evoke an emotional reaction of some kind in the listener.

I was told off by Cristi for saying that Dream Theater sounded like a blend of tribute acts to me. Maybe he had a point. Maybe that was somewhat dismissive of me, but note that I did also acknowledge their skill as musicians.

Gentle Giant is a band I have enormous respect for, due to their obvious technical chops, and unique approach to song writing, but the emotional response to their music is missing for me.

If someone was playing a set of dustbin lids, at 150 BPM with extreme percussive proficiency; with crazy polyrhythms etc, it would be very clever...but it's likely it would still sound like someone hitting dustbin lids...which could get annoying after a while..

The ones who have no music to experience. Some artists seem to have gotten included on PA but yet have no music to be heard on Bandcamp, Spotify or even YouTube. Add to that no physical products to be found making them as mysterious as the legendary debut cassette from Godspeed You! Black Emperor

[QUOTE=Nogbad_The_Bad]He's suffering for other peoples art.[/QUOTEand an experience that most folks these days could not even imagine

Tapfret wrote: This topic comes up every year or so. I will say the same thing I always say: if you are listening to a band/artist to "try to get into them", you are doing it wrong.

A good point. There is no “try” - as someone said.

A current group I’ve listened to a number of times but failed to enjoy is A Formal Horse. In common with others here the experience is a slightly odd one, because if I look at what the band does, the elements of their music, I “ought to like it”. I certainly don’t dislike it, but so far it just leaves me cold. I’ve gone back periodically because - like most people here I’m sure - I’ve had the experience many times by now of listening to something without grokking it X times, then it suddenly clicking on the X+1 listen. And because comments from people who have similar tastes to mine keep reminding me that I’m probably missing out on a good thing here.


Edited by Mascodagama - January 12 2022 at 23:04