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Top 7 update with Cristi's votes added:-

1. Porcupine Tree (90 points)
2. Marillion (75 points)
3. IQ (67 points)
4. Transatlantic (41 points)
4. Spock's Beard (41 points)
6. Big Big Train (40 points)
7. Present (30 points)

8.  Dream Theater (27 points)
9. Guapo (24 points)
10. Cardiacs (20 points)

11. Thinking Plague (19 points)
12. Solstice (18 points)
12. Talk Talk (18 points)
12. Opeth (18 points)
15. Anglagard (17 points)
15. Pendragon (17 points)
17. The Flower Kings (16 points)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2021 at 03:46
Crap, I forgot about Ozric, though I'm not sure it would've made top 7




Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

The similarities and the differences between the ranking by points, versus the ranking by mentions is quite interesting.

1. Porcupine Tree (8 mentions)
2=. Anekdoten (6 mentions)
2=. Big Big Train
4. IQ (5 mentions)
5=.Koenji Hyakkei (4 mentions)
5=. Present
5=. Wobbler

8=. 5uu’s (3 mentions)
8=. Änglagård 
8=. Beardfish 
8=. Cardiacs
8=. Dream Theater
8=. Izz
8=. Marillion
8=. Neal Morse
8=. Riverside
8=. Spock’s Beard
8=. The Tangent
8=. Thinking Plague
8=. Transatlantic 

21=. After Crying (2 mentions)
21=. Cheer-Accident
21=. Deluge Grander
21=. Echolyn
21=. The Flower Kings
21=. Frost*
21=. Magenta
21=. Miriodor
21=. Pallas
21=. Solstice 
21=. Talk Talk


IMHO, this is a better (more valid) solution to tally up the counts.


Edited by Sean Trane - December 21 2021 at 09:18
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The Psychedelic Ensemble
Wobbler
SONAR/Stephan Thelen
UK
Vespero
Ozric Tentacles
Hidria Spacefolk

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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

The Psychedelic Ensemble
Wobbler
SONAR/Stephan Thelen
UK
Vespero
Ozric Tentacles
Hidria Spacefolk



UK don't qualify, their albums were in the 70's love the Sonar, Vespero and Ozrics picks.

Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 21 2021 at 07:58
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Top 7 update with Wiz_d_Kidd's votes added:-

1. Porcupine Tree (90 points)
2. Marillion (75 points)
3. IQ (67 points)
4. Transatlantic (41 points)
4. Spock's Beard (41 points)
6. Big Big Train (40 points)
7. Present (30 points)

8.  Dream Theater (27 points)
9. Guapo (24 points)
10. Wobbler (22 points)

11. Cardiacs (20 points)
12. Thinking Plague (19 points)
13. Solstice (18 points)
13. Talk Talk (18 points)
13. Opeth (18 points)
16. Anglagard (17 points)
16. Pendragon (17 points)
18. The Flower Kings (16 points)

Wobbler finally makes it into the Top 10. Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote wiz_d_kidd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2021 at 11:52
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

The Psychedelic Ensemble
Wobbler
SONAR/Stephan Thelen
UK
Vespero
Ozric Tentacles
Hidria Spacefolk



UK don't qualify, their albums were in the 70's love the Sonar, Vespero and Ozrics picks.


Oops, good catch Ian.

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Porcupine Tree
IQ
Spocks Beard
Wobbler
Big Big Train
Sanguine Hum
Motorpsycho




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Top 7 update with DrWu23's votes added:-

1. Porcupine Tree (102 points)
2. Marillion (75 points)
2. IQ (75 points)
4. Spock's Beard (47 points)
5. Big Big Train (43 points)
6. Transatlantic (41 points)
7. Present (30 points)

8. Dream Theater (27 points)
9. Wobbler (26 points)
10. Guapo (24 points)

11. Cardiacs (20 points)
12. Thinking Plague (19 points)
13. Solstice (18 points)
13. Talk Talk (18 points)
13. Opeth (18 points)
16. Anglagard (17 points)
16. Pendragon (17 points)
18. The Flower Kings (16 points)

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1 - Cardiacs
2 - Talk Talk
3 - Anekdoten
4 - Porcupine Tree
5 - IQ
6 - Opeth
7 - GYBE!

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Top 7 update with Progmind's votes added:-

1. Porcupine Tree (106 points)
2. IQ (78 points)
3. Marillion (75 points)
4. Spock's Beard (47 points)
5. Big Big Train (43 points)
6. Transatlantic (41 points)
7. Cardiacs (32 points)

8. Present (30 points)
9. Dream Theater (27 points)
10. Wobbler (26 points)
10. Talk Talk (26 points)

12. Guapo (24 points)
13. Opeth (20 points)
14. Thinking Plague (19 points)
15. Solstice (18 points)
16. Anglagard (17 points)
16. Pendragon (17 points)
18. The Flower Kings (16 points)
19. Anekdoten (15 points)
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Wobbler has two albums in the Top Prog Albums (all-time) on PA. It's still early in this poll, but do the Wobbler fans not participate in these forums? I'm baffled why they aren't up there with Porcupine Tree. Confused
 
Doesn't surprise me much. Their two highest-rated albums are their latest, and still pretty fresh on the scene. A little more time, perhaps.

 
Here's what surprises me a little more, the following artists/bands have 2 or more albums within or near the current PA top 100 modern prog bands  (a search by selecting every year past the 70's)  yet have few or no mentions so far: 

 
Steven Wilson (just a couple votes, but 3 albums in the top 100. Perhaps when people vote for Porcupine Tree, that sort of counts as SW?).
Ayreon
Phideaux
Haken
Discipline
Pain of Salvation
Voivod
Death
Devin Townsend
Logos
Birds & Buildings
Symphony X
maudlin of the Well
Art Zoyd
Atheist
 
Plus several that have one "classic" album in the top 100, like Tool, The Mars Volta, Queensryche, Motorpsycho and Eskaton (I'm sure there's more).






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1. Marillion
2. Spock's Beard
3. Porcupine Tree (Steven Wilson)
4. The Flower Kings
5. Big Big Train
6. Dream Theater 
7. IQ

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^^ The OP says any band that released their first album from 1980 onwards.

I hadn't participated, and if I had I wouldn't have listed Art Zoyd despite being a huge Art Zoyd admirer. Art Zoyd originally was formed in 1969, released a vinyl 7" single with two heavy psych songs in 1971 (great stuff I think, very different than what came later), released a studio album in 1976 and one in 1979, and also in 1979 it officially joined up with Rock in Opposition. So even if doesn't include the 7 inch as an album, it released two studio albums in the 1970s. I would be reluctant to include ones that had released any music before 1980 no matter the OP's intent.   Eskaton is another   favourite of mine. It was formed in the 1970s. Its first studio album was released in 1980 but it had released a 7" in 1979. Eskaton I'd be more comfortable listing here than Art Zoyd. I love Eskaton, and it could be in my top 7 easily, but as I have read that it was formed in 1970 and it released a single in the 70s, I will opt to exclude it.      

Not sure what my top seven would be. Maybe (first to come to mind):

1. Cardiacs
2. Swans
3. Guapo
4. Radiohead
5. Current 93
6. Secret Chiefs 3
7. Dead Can Dance

Some notables: Present, North Sea Radio Orchestra, U Totem, Miriodor and Volapuk.

Non-Prog or not in PA bonus:
Broadcast
Pram
Portishead
Stereolab   



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Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Wobbler has two albums in the Top Prog Albums (all-time) on PA. It's still early in this poll, but do the Wobbler fans not participate in these forums? I'm baffled why they aren't up there with Porcupine Tree. Confused
 
Doesn't surprise me much. Their two highest-rated albums are their latest, and still pretty fresh on the scene. A little more time, perhaps.

 
Here's what surprises me a little more, the following artists/bands have 2 or more albums within or near the current PA top 100 modern prog bands  (a search by selecting every year past the 70's)  yet have few or no mentions so far: 

 
Steven Wilson (just a couple votes, but 3 albums in the top 100. Perhaps when people vote for Porcupine Tree, that sort of counts as SW?).

I'm glad you mentioned Steven Wilson. I haven't counted any votes for SW in the polling as he's not a band, and it didn't seem right to convert a vote for Steven Wilson into an automatic vote for Porcupine Tree. Smile
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Top 7 update with ILuvMarillion & Logan's votes added:-

1. Porcupine Tree (112 points)
2. Marillion (87 points)
3. IQ (79 points)
4. Spock's Beard (55 points)
5. Big Big Train (46 points)
6. Cardiacs (44 points)
7. Transatlantic (41 points)

8. Present (30 points)
8. Guapo (30 points)
10. Dream Theater (29 points)

11. Wobbler (26 points)
11. Talk Talk (26 points)
13. Opeth (20 points)
13. The Flower Kings (20 points)
15. Thinking Plague (19 points)
16. Solstice (18 points)
17. Anglagard (17 points)
17. Pendragon (17 points)
19. Swans (16 points)
20. Anekdoten (15 points)
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1. Neal Morse Band
2. Transatlantic
3. Mostly Autumn
4. Spock's Beard
5. The Flower Kings
6. Theocracy
7. Marillion
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2021 at 09:45
Since the OP states we are in "neo-prog" territory, I will stick to that - makes it a lot easier...:

1. Marillion
2. Pallas
3. Twelfth Night
4. IQ
5. Pendragon
6. Landmarq
7. Light



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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^^ The OP says any band that released their first album from 1980 onwards.

I hadn't participated, and if I had I wouldn't have listed Art Zoyd despite being a huge Art Zoyd admirer. Art Zoyd originally was formed in 1969, released a vinyl 7" single with two heavy psych songs in 1971 (great stuff I think, very different than what came later), released a studio album in 1976 and one in 1979, and also in 1979 it officially joined up with Rock in Opposition. So even if doesn't include the 7 inch as an album, it released two studio albums in the 1970s. I would be reluctant to include ones that had released any music before 1980 no matter the OP's intent.   Eskaton is another   favourite of mine. It was formed in the 1970s. Its first studio album was released in 1980 but it had released a 7" in 1979. Eskaton I'd be more comfortable listing here than Art Zoyd. I love Eskaton, and it could be in my top 7 easily, but as I have read that it was formed in 1970 and it released a single in the 70s, I will opt to exclude it.      
  


Well, fair 'nuff, I was just looking at 80's albums near the top.  Doesn't matter too much to me if Eskaton and Art Zoyd are "modern" or not, the larger point is just that there are a lot of high-rated bands not being mentioned in peoples' lists here!  Confused
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Wobbler has two albums in the Top Prog Albums (all-time) on PA. It's still early in this poll, but do the Wobbler fans not participate in these forums? I'm baffled why they aren't up there with Porcupine Tree. Confused
 
Doesn't surprise me much. Their two highest-rated albums are their latest, and still pretty fresh on the scene. A little more time, perhaps.

 
Here's what surprises me a little more, the following artists/bands have 2 or more albums within or near the current PA top 100 modern prog bands  (a search by selecting every year past the 70's)  yet have few or no mentions so far: 

 
Steven Wilson (just a couple votes, but 3 albums in the top 100. Perhaps when people vote for Porcupine Tree, that sort of counts as SW?).

I'm glad you mentioned Steven Wilson. I haven't counted any votes for SW in the polling as he's not a band, and it didn't seem right to convert a vote for Steven Wilson into an automatic vote for Porcupine Tree. Smile


Sorry, didn't catch that. But it might be good to put more emphasis on 'no individual artists' -- after all, artists like SW have bands that their working with, often including the same members on multiple albums.
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