Guess what famous guy has heard of Camel

Rick Astley? Not famous? I'm sorry, which edition of the internet have you been using for the past decade or so? 

There are kids today, here in the U.S., who know Astley because of the whole Rickroll thing. When you combine that with everyone who remembers him from when he was relevant you'll realize that he's much more known here than you think. 

They are also both dead so I would use the past tense as opposed to the present tense with them. 

Anyway, imo, you would have to say Belinda Carlisle, Debbie Gibson and Cyndi Lauper are all famous too. :P I suppose we all have different ideas of what fame is and it's kind of subjective. Most young kids probably haven't heard of Yes so does that mean Yes isn't famous? I personally wouldn't say many people that others consider famous to be famous but maybe it's more of not my cup of tea or not on my radar. I haven't seen anyone wearing Rick Astley t shirts or heard or seen much of him mentioned(other than one song on a tv commercial)for over 25 years so..... Let me just say that when I think of someone famous RA probably isn't even one of the first 100 people to pop up in my head(if at all). 

Since you love to argue so much I'll let you get the last word in. I'm done with this discussion though.