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Poll Question: Vote for the three best, not your own!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 14:36
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I love Tri Yann.  ISB is a little rough for some, they were so experimental, but they were very much in line with a lot of the psych of the day, esp the folky psych.  Most people have no idea that they actually played Woodstock, they were left out of the documentary.

I recommend the 5000 Spirits or The Layers of the Onion.  You may enjoy Robin Williamson with His Merry Band, which is what era this selection was from, as most of it is music and, even though still quirky, it is impeccably played.

I'll sign it!

I'm glad you enjoyed the slow and melancholy tango by Gilad Atzmon, a jazz saxophonist who is doing a great work of musical fusion.

As you know, I'm a Springsteen fan, and if you have time, I'll give you a taste of his Live in Dublin, where he sings traditional American and Celtic songs with a band combining Irish folk instruments and a Mississippi Delta brass section. Further on up the road is his roots rock song (also performed by Johnny Cash), quite conventional even if I like it a lot, but the Celtic version of him is absolutely fantastic I love it. Live in Dublin is my favorite Boss record.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 13:50
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I love Tri Yann.  ISB is a little rough for some, they were so experimental, but they were very much in line with a lot of the psych of the day, esp the folky psych.  Most people have no idea that they actually played Woodstock, they were left out of the documentary.

I recommend the 5000 Spirits or The Layers of the Onion.  You may enjoy Robin Williamson with His Merry Band, which is what era this selection was from, as most of it is music and, even though still quirky, it is impeccably played.

I'll sign it!

I'm glad you enjoyed the slow and melancholy tango by Gilad Atzmon, a jazz saxophonist who is doing a great work of musical fusion.

As you know, I'm a Springsteen fan, and if you have time, I'll give you a taste of his Live in Dublin, where he sings traditional American and Celtic songs with a band combining Irish folk instruments and a Mississippi Delta brass section. Further on up the road is his roots rock song (also performed by Johnny Cash), quite conventional even if I like it a lot, but the Celtic version of him is absolutely fantastic I love it. Live in Dublin is my favorite Boss record.






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 13:38
I love Tri Yann.  ISB is a little rough for some, they were so experimental, but they were very much in line with a lot of the psych of the day, esp the folky psych.  Most people have no idea that they actually played Woodstock, they were left out of the documentary.

I recommend the 5000 Spirits or The Layers of the Onion.  You may enjoy Robin Williamson with His Merry Band, which is what era this selection was from, as most of it is music and, even though still quirky, it is impeccably played.


Edited by Snicolette - August 25 2021 at 13:40
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 13:33
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Thank you for your thoughts on the Robin Williamson piece, Lorenzo.   He is particularly talking about the Celts and their ancient and complex culture throughout.  

Primarily, it is about how even though history is often viewed through the lens of war, there is another side to history. Art and sharing art, cross-culturally.



Oh, well, thank you, Nickie.

I should delve into Williamson & the ISB, I know little about their music. I like Celtic music, Breton or Irish o Scottish. The first band I listened to was Tri Yann.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 11:15
Thank you for your thoughts on the Robin Williamson piece, Lorenzo.   He is particularly talking about the Celts and their ancient and complex culture throughout.  

Primarily, it is about how even though history is often viewed through the lens of war, there is another side to history. Art and sharing art, cross-culturally.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 11:12
Thanks to George for the playlist and thank you all for the nice selection.

My podium:

1) Schoengerg

2) MacAloon (despite the 22 minutes!)

3) Trapnell

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Contender of the the third place:

4) Williamson, Grand Jury Prize

5) Soul Couching

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6) Hot Rod Lincoln: Public prize

plus many other honorable mentions (look above)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 08:35
Goshywoshy, this is indeed a very good playlist (thanks George!). Difficult to bring it down to three votes. For the moment, my shortlist consists of:
- Erik Truffaz
- Arnold Schoenberg
- Dan Turèll & Halfdan E
- Masters of Reality
- Gil Scott-Heron
- Gilad Atzmon
- Kruder & Dorfmeister
- Soul Coughing
Without forgetting the force of the Johnny Cash performance and the impressive rhythm (and maintaining it in the performance) of the lyrics of Commander Cody...
Hmm... probably have to exclude the ones I knew before to come to a decision... Will listen again!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ronstein Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 03:29
Steven Wilson - Perfect Life


Tom Paxton - Taking Vietnam Potluck Blues


Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Tale of the Giant Stone Eater

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 03:07
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There is no closure. Chances are in 20 years it'll be too late to vote, but surely for the next few weeks you still can.

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threads close when not posted for more than a year LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2021 at 02:57
There is no closure. Chances are in 20 years it'll be too late to vote, but surely for the next few weeks you still can.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerfeet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2021 at 20:46
What a wonderful playlist, like non other so far in these series of polls. So far 90% of the nominations are all between 7 to 9.5 out of 10 in preliminary listening to the playlist in its entirety. I have whittled it down to 7 remaining. Digging this list a lot. I hope the polls stay open a few more days? 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2021 at 17:03
My mini reviews and my podium

1) Erik Truffaz. Splendid atmosphere, good pop-jazz mood. Near to the podium. Honorable mention.

2) Pierrot Lunaire
Normally, I do not vote for cultured music (and in fact I have never proposed it), since I consider it part of a higher category than pop, understood in an extensive way. But as I have already said, in some cases, when for example the cultured music pieces are among my favorites, I vote them. This is the case of Pierrot Lunaire, a brilliant work by Schoenberg, of which Mila-13 has chosen this short passage. I love almost only this work by Schoenberg, twelve-tone method sounds to me only good for the academy and to enter history.
Instead this piece, very expressive, and without a tonal center, is wonderful. Gold medal.

3) Prefab Sprout
Glad to have rediscovered this band, Paddy McAloon, great composer of soft pop ballads apparently made great music even after the eighties. This long composition has an engaging beginning (gorgeus melody beautifully arranged) and a very nice sound. Then, however, it disappoints me a little because I don't see a great development, the melody remains monotonous, apart from some variations, all the time, and as my teacher used to say at school, only masterpieces have the right to be long. This, in my opinion, is a very inspired and very well executed and arranged melodic piece, but to be a real masterpiece it had to last half the time. Anyway, it is close to masterpiece, and it takes the silver medal.

4) Dan Turèll & Halfdan E - Jeg skulle have været taxachauffør
For my taste it is too much spoken, it's a pity because when the reciting voice stops and you listen to the music, especially the brass instruments, in my opinion the piece rises in quality.

5) Matthew Trapnell
Ullallà... very good balance between rhyth, noise sounds, music, spoken words, with good short dissonant instrumental pieces. It wins the bronze medal

6) Hot Road Lincoln
This is rock and roll, and the beat feels like Johnny Cash's songs, unbelievable. Gorgeus music, enthralling, it gives me a lot of pleasure, but the competition is cruel. Honorable mention and Public prize.

7) Masters of reality
Interesting ballad rock, nice.

8) Gil Scott Heron
Black Power! Black Power!  Because... "The Fire, Next Time" (signed: James Baldwin: who has read this essay?). Pleasing blues-funky-rap. Honorable mention

9) Robin Williamson - Five Denials On Merlin's Grave
This is a really long, very long narrative piece with Celtic music in the background, and obviously the best parts are the ones where the music comes to the fore, like around 7 minutes or when the voice gets more expressive and recitative and goes in progression, as happens in the tenth minute or at the end. I wasn't able to follow the full meaning of the text, but the evocation works anyway, and it's a pity that the harp is only heard towards the end.
Hmmm... contender of the third place, but the competition is crel. Anyway, Grand jury prize.

10) A Boy Named Sue.
Oh, well, I love Johnny Cash, and I know by heart his two albums live from America's most famous prisons. This song is really enjoyable, even for Cash's acting, and although the lyrics are not his, it represents him well, in his being transgressive but conservative. Anyway, I have already voted the Pierrot among the pieces I already know, I can't vote for this one too. Honorable mention.

11) Soul Couching - This song is a really new listen to me, there is the blues, the dissonant avant-garde, the rap (maybe) but it actually feels more like a theatrical acting. Engaging syncopated rhythm, perhaps repeated too long. Very nice, competing for third place but ultimately gets an honorable mention.

12) Blondie - keyboard-driven music, almost like a movie, very airy, then comes the dissonant and noisy ending. Suggestive

13) Bomb The Bass - rap song with avant-garde sounds, rap singing doesn't excite me, instrumental parts are interesting.

14) Drop Nineteens - noisy rock song for 5 minutes (too long, imo), then comes the vocals and acoustic guitar. I'm not thrilled.

15) 2NU - Cybernetic, electronic, suggestive song, but it's not my cup of tea

16) Cradle of Fifth - great commitment, and very long piece, almost a minisuite, unfortunately the heavy metal sound (is death metal or what? I am ignorant in these kind of music) and singing are not part of my tastes.




Edit: I have changed some evaluation


Edited by jamesbaldwin - August 25 2021 at 11:06
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After much deliberation, here are my Top 3, Honourable Mentions and If You'd Chosens:

1.        Lorenzo:  Gilad Atzmon “Joven, Hermosa y Triste”  This was perhaps the most musical of the options, probably why I enjoyed it so much.  Piano, bass and subtle drumming begins the piece.  There are gorgeous, shimmery strings and concertina (or may be the Italian instrument, Lorenzo, that reminds me of concertina, the name escapes me as I write).  He sings a wordless melody with the instrumentation, after first speaking a part.  This is very leisurely and takes it’s time creating the atmosphere, a bit Klezmer-y perhaps, but not as “bright,” as I usually think of Klezmer.  He then sings a portion after another speaking part and some saxophone joins in.  Quite enjoyed it, although I could only catch some of the lyrics without a translation

2.       Kees:  If you’d chosen, this would also have been in contention.  Anthony Joseph “Calling England Home”   Another “if you’d chosen,”  the Lucier piece, that would have won first place for me, for sheer inventiveness and also musicality.  But I understand why you went with this, as it is about half as long.   Paddy McAloon/Prefab Sprout “I Trawl the Megahertz”  I found the reading of the poetry as the story slowly unfolds to be moving.  Light and airy orchestral beginning, sounds like it may be nostalgic, from the setup.  Female voice tells a child that it’s world is changing, his father doesn’t want to live with them anymore.  Saxophone joins in.  The woman continues describing her experience, trying to navigate in a warlike setting.  Trying to come to terms that everything is now changed, forever.  She is at a loss, over her loss, looking for ways to heal, but none of them are enough, only the oblivion that waits in the stars once she is “bones, or dust, or ashes,” may free her from this pain.  Death of a relationship/death of another one loves, it is the same.  Extraordinary piece.

3.       dr wu23:  Masters of Reality “T.U.S.A.”  Love the cover and the album name, btw.  Another deep voiced guy, but this one’s British and it’s not a dream, as in wiz’s previous track.  This guy is musing about a teabag, with a catchy guitar, drums and bass underpinning, which repeats throughout.  A chorus vocal queries why can’t get their tea?  Reminds me so much of my British friends ordering “tea,” at a diner and their disgust at how it is served here in the US!  Very amusing! 

Honourable Mentions:

 Cristi:  Erik Truffaz “Trippin’ The Lovelight Fantastic”  

 Anders:  Dan Turèll & Halfdan E “eg skulle have været taxachauffør”

 wiz_d_kidd:  2NU “This Is Ponderous” 

These, for me, would have been in contention, had they been chosen, but only after the Lucier piece, which would have far outdistanced all of the choices for me. 

Christian:  Red Snapper “Suckerpunch” 

Greg:  Matt Berry “Introduction (To Opium)”

George:  Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy “Television, the Drug of the Nation” 

I prophesy disaster:  Rollins Band “Liar”



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 Matthew Trapnell - Ella's Uncle
Commander Cody And His Lost Planet Airmen - Hot Rod Lincoln
Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2021 at 03:55
my 3 choices

Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Paddy McAllon (Prefab Sprout) - I Trawl the Megahertz
Matthew Trapnell - Ella's Uncle
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2021 at 19:25
Really tough to limit it to three choices, but in the end I go with:

Paddy McAllon (Prefab Sprout) - I Trawl the Megahertz
Matthew Trapnell - Ella's Uncle
Blondie - Europa

Thanks, this was a good round.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2021 at 18:31
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Note: the Anders' entry is separate because it was tagged as made for kids


Now that is weird....

But there must be some kind of explanation.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2021 at 17:44
Thank you, George!  Always appreciate the playlist!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2021 at 17:29
Great, thanks! These playlists add so much to the poll experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2021 at 17:08
Playlist! Note: the Anders' entry is separate because it was tagged as made for kids and such videos can't be added to playlists.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx4p4U8Hb-Sp4hv8aRzLrlFl




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