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Mila-13
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Thanks for your comment, Nickie. They are always interesting to read! I must say that I am quite surprised that Laurie Anderson has been included in PA. I can't see by which criteria she's considered a prog rock musician. Progressive yes but rock? Marina Abramovic's performance at the MOMA on the other hand was just part of a discussion between me and Kees about the interpretation of the poll theme. It was rather a fun and provocative example of how the term 'language' could be understood. But since in this performance there is no spoken word at all I don't think that it meets the poll criteria. I posted an alternative option right above your comments. It is a reading or rather an artistic interpretation of a Virginia Woolf text by Patti Smith. Another option was a female Afghan rapper but I noticed that meanwhile half of my Afghan music collection (youtube playlist) had all of a sudden disappeard . . surprise surprise. And yes, it had to be a woman! Edited by Mila-13 - August 19 2021 at 03:08 |
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Lewian
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You're welcome. Surely still time to take part!
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mathman0806
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Another bonus. Since dr wu posted Masters of Reality (spoken word and drums by Ginger Baker) and William Shatner, how about a track with Ginger Baker (drums) and William Shatner (vocals) together.
From a project called Hawkestrel with past members of Hawkwind, a cover of Hawkwind's Sonic Attack Edit: posted wrong track at first, and while Ginger Baker was involved with the album, he probably wasn't on this track. Edited by mathman0806 - August 19 2021 at 06:20 |
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Wow, interesting that already censorship of women is already hitting so hard, even in less obscure places than the street, although I suppose YT is also a public area.
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First thoughts on Pages 3 and 4 (thus far), all are additions:
Christian: Out of Competition The Blech “Rink Mink” Deep chantlike male group vocals opens this
piece, then popping bass and flailing horns and an ululating voice, which is
joined up in a group vocalization.
Keyboards, bass, horns and percussion clip along, then back to the main
theme and the ululations. Trumpet, I
think with solo that goes from high to low, horse-flutteries, back to the main
theme again. George: Hawkestrel
with William Shatner “Sonic Attack” A
sort of emergency-radio alert, with sounds of rapid fire in the
background. Emergency sonic
notifications and the voice becomes more effected with echo. An attack by sonic forces and how to recognize
and combat them. An exhortation to think
only of yourself. Mila: Patti
Smith reading from Virginia Woolf and pondering upon her suicide (on my birthdate)
in 1941. Backed with piano, a dramatic
poetry-reading-like performance. Sort of
a stream-of-consciousness peek into this artist’s mind while contemplating the
writings of Virginia Woolf. |
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For those who, months ago, appreciated my selection of songs taken from Litania by Giovanni Lindo Ferretti & Ambrogio Sparagna, here is the song (Out of Competition) Lorica. The name is taken from a popular prayer, but the text is by Giovanni Lindo Ferretti. "In the Irish (Iberno-Scottish) monastic tradition, a lorica is a prayer recited for protection. It is essentially a "prayer of protection" in which the petitioner invokes all the power of God as a safeguard against evil in its many forms. The Latin word lōrīca originally meant "armor" (body armor, in the sense of chain mail or breastplate). The idea behind the name is probably derived from Ephesians 6:14, where Paul invites his readers to stand up, "having put on the breastplate of righteousness." The Greek word here translated as "breastplate" is θώραξ, in the Vulgate version rendered Loric. Lorica (prayer) - https://it.abcdef.wiki/wiki/Lorica_(prayer) This is the translation of the text, made by the automatic translator with various corrections of mine. Lorica Please grant me, Lord, until the end. Please grant me, Lord, until the end. May my love descend upon them. Let all his limbs be carefully scrutinized for my sake from head to soles of feet, hair, forehead, cheeks, lips, tongue, throat - where the word is formed, and the apparatus the word, the chest, the arms hands - both on the back and in the palm, heart, liver, lungs, the intestines and the whole belly, the physical structure as a whole, the limbs, the veins, the nerves, the genitals, the thighs, the shins, the kneecaps, the joints, the feet that walk, flesh and blood. O God, purify my heart, for my love. O God, purify the heart, for my love. I adjure you all, saints, angels, archangels, patriarchs, confessors, apostles, martyrs, I conjure you all, thrones, dominations, cherubs and seraphs, I adjure you all, virgins, widows, all you heavenly virtues, I adjure you, sky and earth, sun and moon, all stars, lightning and clouds and winds and rains and fire and heat, I adjure you, nights and days, darkness and moon, I adjure you, all trees and stones, birds of the sky and all beasts of the earth, the horses and the reptiles, the marine fish and all the worms, and all the virtues and powers that are above heaven and earth. So that we purify the heart, my heart, for my love. So that we purify the heart, my heart, for my love. Grant me, Lord until the end. Purify the heart, my heart, for my love. |
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Patti is great and did great version of Teen Spirit (better than Curt; for me anyway) Edited by tigerfeet - August 19 2021 at 20:06 |
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I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams.
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I love, love this song by Blondie which arguably was the closest the band ever got to prog. The band also had many great songs which were not "Hits"
It is an instrumental followed at 2.54 by a short spoken poem (still cant quite work out what it means) Kudos to Chris Stein who is an awesome guitarist as well throughout his career. |
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I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams.
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Addition and initial response on Page 4, Lorenzo and Tigerfeet
Lorenzo: Out of Competition: Lorica
“Litania” Begins with an accordion or
the like. There are so many variations
of these, I’m afraid to guess. However,
it is played in a sort of shanty style.
A beautiful spoken hymn, as I see it, it reminds me much of hearing
Latin in Mass, with music being played underneath, as it was done when I was a
child, with different instrumentation. I
can hear this being spoken by knights before heading into battle. tigerfeet:
Blondie “Europa” I would not have
expected this from Blondie. Orchestral
beginning, electric elements are added.
The music is very cinematic, lush and melancholy in feel. About 2 ½ minutes in, as stated, the spoken part
begins, as the music is replaced with a sound like radio frequencies
changing. The music remains under,
building to a crescendo, as the speaking part ends and coda. I believe it is about how progress is not always
positive. Just because something can be
done, should it be done? |
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Mila-13
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I always appreciate to experience an artist or band who I thought I knew in a different way. This album does include some of their biggest hits such as 'The Tide Is High" but I was not aware of the entire album. I now reazlize that there is much to be discovered, esp. the influence of a variaty of music genres which I would not have expected. A similar reasoning led me to choose Patti Smith.- Indeed, I find Patti's version of "Teen Spirit" quite interesting as well! Edited by Mila-13 - August 20 2021 at 13:15 |
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Cristi
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when's the deadline for final nominations?
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Lewian
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Let's get in the final nominations by end Sunday.
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Just to confirm, my nomination still is Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.
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Cristi
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Snicolette
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I only have one entry this time. Robin Williamson "Five Denials on Merlin's Grave"
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Lewian
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I try to listen to them all but that has become increasingly hard in a week. I'm still somewhere in the middle of page 1. Lots of stuff, some of it excellent. Well done you! (Lots of very long stuff, too... that doesn't exactly make it easier though.) @Cristi: You know often our tastes differ, but I like the Unconscious and Erik Truffaz stuff a lot. @mathman: As Weird Al Yankovic is, I'd prefer one of the other two as your nomination, this is the kind of stuff I was looking for.
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My nomination is Soul Coughing -Screenwriter's Blues. I had been wanting to suggest it when suitable came up, and so it did.
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Mila-13
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I think I made a mistake. This poll is about the spoken word as a stylistic device in music and this is a forum with predominantly English speaking members. So if I choose a piece with lyrics in a foreign language it makes sense to focus a bit more on the music, that is the music should be more interesting or appealing. Now I don't know what to do. My only English option is an artist that everybody knows, Patti Smith. Hmm . . Edited by Mila-13 - August 21 2021 at 02:17 |
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Just to remind you that from my point of view the topic (as pretty much all topics before) can be interpreted broadly and generously. Obviously I won't get in the way of your having a controversy with yourself, but as far as I'm concerned, there are no different requirements for suggestions in English or any other language, and to what extent the main focus is on the lyrics or on the use of words as part of the musical expression is entirely up to you.
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Lewian
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I like to think of commenting as giving a bit of help for the nomination process, so I tend to comment on those who have several options and where I have some clear preference, so... I prophesy disaster: Don't care much about the Rollins Band one, but the other two are great. suitkees: Surprisingly (?) the Alvin Lucier one is one of the very few (3?) I know here. Nice suggestion for this poll but chances are I wouldn't vote for it. Not sure what to make of the Prefab Sprout one, particularly because I haven't found 22 minutes time for properly listening to it. First impression, it may or may not be worth more listens, not sure. Anthony Joseph's one is fine but maybe not among the top three of the whole bunch. (I'd choose it over King Missile though.) dr wu: Masters of Reality clearly over Shatner. Nice attempt at Rocket Man though (I know that wasn't yours). Mila: Pierrot Lunaire is another one I know already, gotta say it doesn't give me that much. I don't remember the Laurie Anderson one; I have heard quite a bit of her material back in the day but never became a fan and haven't listened to her for ages.There's surely potential but it doesn't grab me at first listen. The long version of BLIZZARD makes much more sense to me than the short one (and is my favourite pick out of yours - but wait, there's Marina Abramovic, love that one - but then does it count? You're surely exploring the limits here!).
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