Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Good albums with one bad song
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Good albums with one bad song
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 34567 8>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
dr wu23 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20623 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 09:04
The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 13056 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 09:08
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.

I can stand Octopus' Garden, but one of Paul's numerous granny songs? No thanks, can't even stomach listening to it. 
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
dr wu23 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20623 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 09:30
Another that always annoyed me was Clap on the Yes lp...not a 'bad song' just didn't fit imho.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
Back to Top
Steve Wyzard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 30 2017
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 2582 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 09:38
Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!
Back to Top
Sacro_Porgo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 15 2019
Location: Cygnus
Status: Offline
Points: 2052 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sacro_Porgo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 12:41
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!

Interesting take!
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Back to Top
The Anders View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 02 2019
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 3529 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2021 at 17:58
I blushingly admit I quite enjoy Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Never been a fan of Octopus's Garden anyway.
Back to Top
BarryGlibb View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 28 2010
Location: Melbourne, Oz
Status: Offline
Points: 1781 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BarryGlibb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 03:49
Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

.......
Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
.......


At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.
Back to Top
Frenetic Zetetic View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 09 2017
Location: Now
Status: Offline
Points: 9233 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 04:31
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

.......
Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
.......


At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.

I can actually completely understand how many not only don't like Knots, but don't care for GG in general.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
Back to Top
Sacro_Porgo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 15 2019
Location: Cygnus
Status: Offline
Points: 2052 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sacro_Porgo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 13:29
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

.......
Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
.......


At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.



Knots is definitely a love it or hate it track, no way around it.
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Back to Top
Squonk19 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2015
Location: Darlington, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 4776 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 17:11
Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

I can't stand 'Violin' on Kate Bush's otherwise lovely Never For Ever.
Grates on me too….. The BBC Christmas 1979 Special suffered by its inclusion. Everything else was wonderful
“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
Back to Top
Squonk19 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2015
Location: Darlington, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 4776 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 17:16
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Going for the One - Parallels

Really? Cry

Rick’s church organ intro, Chris’s wonderful melodic bass and Steve’s soaring guitar…. Shocked
“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Online
Points: 43641 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2021 at 01:24
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Going for the One - Parallels

Really? Cry

Rick’s church organ intro, Chris’s wonderful melodic bass and Steve’s soaring guitar…. Shocked

one of my favorite Yes songs LOL
Back to Top
DamoXt7942 View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar

Joined: October 15 2008
Location: Okayama, Japan
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DamoXt7942 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2021 at 02:03
One of albums coming up to my mind is "Pet Sounds" by The Beach Boys, featuring "Sloop John B" that should never be fit for this albumscape. Unhappy
Back to Top
Tapfret View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 12 2007
Location: Bryant, Wa
Status: Offline
Points: 8581 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tapfret Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2021 at 02:33
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

... But maybe, just maybe ending their concept album "Dimension Hatröss" with a cover of "The Batman Theme" wasn't Voivod's best ever idea...

I agree. However, that was strictly a CD bonus track, so I have a hard time really counting it. Plus, its not stuck right in the middle of the album.

As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Its very rare that I don't accept every piece as part of the whole. But there are a couple.

PFM - Is My Face on Straight (L'Isola di Niente). I find the lyrical theme sophomoric and the musical theme disjointed. What's worse is Peter Sinfield gets so much credit for his contribution to PFM. 

Iron Maiden - Quest for Fire (Piece of Mind). Maiden usually gets praise for being well-read and researching their lyrical themes. But a song about the "quest for fire" when "dinosaurs walked the earth"? Bad, just bad. The music is not up to Maiden's standard either.

   


Edited by Tapfret - August 12 2021 at 02:35

Bandcamp
Back to Top
cstack3 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
Status: Offline
Points: 7264 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2021 at 12:05
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:



As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Clap  Thanks for that!!  I always loved W&W, but that song made me cringe!  However, I think it was the opening shot of the long slide to AM-Friendly Genesis.  
I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
Back to Top
Steve Wyzard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 30 2017
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 2582 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2021 at 12:13
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:



As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Clap  Thanks for that!!  I always loved W&W, but that song made me cringe!  However, I think it was the opening shot of the long slide to AM-Friendly Genesis.  

While I don't hate "Your Own Special Way" (it sort of fits in with the album's "haunted pastoral" theme), I've so often wished that "Inside and Out" (from the Spot the Pigeon ep) was in its place on the album!
Back to Top
Cambus741 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 12 2015
Location: Chelmsford
Status: Offline
Points: 1223 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cambus741 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2021 at 04:04
Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Online
Points: 43641 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2021 at 04:09
Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

I love Marillion's The Party, what's wrong with it? Confused
Back to Top
iluvmarillion View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 09 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 3242 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2021 at 00:51
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

I love Marillion's The Party, what's wrong with it? Confused


Nothing. I wonder do people bother with the lyrics?
Back to Top
Sacro_Porgo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 15 2019
Location: Cygnus
Status: Offline
Points: 2052 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sacro_Porgo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2021 at 14:13
Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

Body Language, yeah it's not great.

Killer Queen though???
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 34567 8>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.268 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.