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    Posted: August 02 2021 at 12:28
We're back, and the eighties rage on. What are your prog rock favourites from 1981?

1. King Crimson - Discipline
2. Wha-Ha-Ha - Shinutokiwa Betsu
3. Master Cylinder - Elsewhere
4. Camel - Nude
5. Robert Fripp - Let The Power Fall
6. Jaco Pastorius - Word Of Mouth
7. Electric Light Orchestra - Time
8. The League Of Gentlemen - The League Of Gentlemen
9. Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
10. Alan Gowen, Phil Miller, Richard Sinclair & Trevor Tomkins - Before A Word Is Said

Honourable mentions (sorry if this counts as cheating but it feels unfair if I leave these out):
- Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin & Paco De Lucía - Friday Night In San Francisco
- Cardiacs - Toy World
- Debile Menthol - Emile Au Jardin Patrologique
- Genesis - Abacab
- Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
- Rush - Moving Pictures
- The Muffins - 185
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One of the greatest years in music history. I simply need sixteen:

The Residents - Mark of the Mole
ELO - Time
Kraftwerk - Computerwelt
Dün - Eros
Fabio Frizzi - L'aldilŕ / The Beyond
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Okay Temiz - Zikir
Eider stellaire - Eider Stellaire
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le jour oů brűleront les cités
Magma - Rétrospective Vol. 1 & 2
Nekropolis - Musik aus dem Schattenreich
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget
Wha-Ha-Ha - Shinutokiwa Betsu
A la Ping Pong - Phase II - Go Go Pongs
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The greatest album ever released

Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors

and

Eskaton - 4 Visions
This Heat - Deceit
Dun - Eros
King Crimson - Discipline
Massacre - Killing Time
Eider Stellaire - s/t
Patrick Gauthier - Bebe Godzilla
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
The Muffins - 185
Fela Kuti - Original Sufferhead
Magma - Retrospektiv I & II
Rush - Moving Pictures


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1. RICKIE LEE JONES Pirates
2. KING CRIMSON Discipline
3. JEAN-PIERRE RAMPAL, ALEXANDRE LAGOYA, and MICHEL LEGRAND Pastorales de Noël
4. ANTHONY PHILLIPS 1984
5. ANDREAS VOLLENWEIDER Behind the Gardens - Behind the Wall - Under the Tree...
6. ESKATON 4 Visions
7. PAT METHENY & LYLE MAYS As Falls Witchita, So Falls Wichita Falls
8. BRIAN ENO & JON HASSELL Fourth World Possible Musics, Volume Two: Dream Theory in Malaya
9. U2 October
10. TOM TOM CLUB Tom Tom Club

11. THE POLICE Ghost in the Machine
12. JOHN MCLAUGHLIN Belo Horizonte
13. TANGERINE DREAM Thief OST
14. BRUCE COCKBURN Inner City Front
15. LOS JAIVAS Alturas de Machu Picchu
16. SBB Memento z banalnym triptykiem
17. GENESIS ABACAB
18. CAMEL Nude
19. VAN HALEN Fair Warning
20. AL JARREAU Breakin' Away

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PHIL COLLINS Face Value
STEVIE NICKS Bella Donna
BUDDY GUY Stone Crazy!
EIDER STELLAIRE I
SANTANA Zeebop!
THE TUBES The Completion Backwards Principle
STEVE HACKETT Cured
JOAN ARMATRADING Walk Under Ladders
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

10. Alan Gowen, Phil Miller, Richard Sinclair & Trevor Tomkins - Before A Word Is Said

A forgotten treasure - at least i forgot it.
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King Crimson - Discipline
Brian Eno & David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
Robert Fripp & The League of Gentlemen
Japan - Tin Drum
Renaissance - Camera Camera
Eskaton - 4 Visions
This Heat - Deceit
Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors
Dün - Eros
Holger Czukay - On the Way to the Peak of Normal


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12        Dün     Eros    
12        Itoiz     Alkolea  
11        Bise de Buse   Joue sa Musique        
11        However         Sudden Dusk 
11        Jaivas, Los       Alturas de Machu Picchu
11        Congreso        Viaje Por La Cresta Del Mundo    
11        Present           Triskaidekaphobie
11        Univers Zero   Ceux Du Dehors
11        Eskaton - 4 Visions
10       This Heat - Decei
10        King Crimson  Discipline  
10        Kultivator        Barndomens Stigar
10        Myrbein          Myrornas Krig
10        Pererin      Teithgan


bubbling under:
10        Marino, Frank & Mahogany Rush     The Power of Rock and Roll 
10        Massacre        Killing Time
10        McLaughlin, John / Al Di Meola / Paco De Lucia     Friday Night in San Francisco 10        Mombasa       Peace Maker
10        Agharta           Agharta    
10        Anvil    Hard 'n' Heavy                      
10        Emma Myldenberger Emmaz Live! 10        Muffins, The   185       
10        Orchestre Sympathique, L'    Live in Montreal         
10        Rush    Exit: Stage Left    
10        Rush    Moving Pictures    
10        Solstice           Espresso   
10            Spirit   Adventures of Kaptain Kopter



Edited by Sean Trane - August 03 2021 at 06:05
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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Damn Hugues you're a tough grader!
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1. Rush - Moving Pictures
2. King Crimson - Discipline
3. Eskaton - 4 Visions
4. This Heat - Deceit
5. Eloy - Planets
6. Genesis - Abacab
7. Dün - Eros
8. East - Játékok
9. Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
10. Electric Light Orchestra - Time

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Art Bears - The World As It Is Today
Lethe - Lethe
Anyone's Daughter - Piktors Verwandlungen
Camel - Nude
Osiris - Osiris
Saga - Worlds Apart
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Another fine year:  alphabetically
Asturcon - s/t
Blue Oyster Cult - Fire of Unknown Origin
Dan Ar Braz - Acoustic
Eloy - Planets
Gordon Giltrap - Live at Oxford (I normally don't include live albums but this is THE album to get by him)
Steve Hackett - Cured
Jon and Vangelis - Friends of Mr Cairo
Kerrs Pink - Mellom Oss
Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu
Magdalena - Lanean Sartzen
Pat Metheny - As Falls Wichita, so falls Wichita Falls
Moving Hearts - s/t
Osiris - s/t
Pererin - Teithgan
Renaissance - Camera Camera
Sedmina - Dejanje
Tangerine Dream - Exit


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Damn Hugues you're a tough grader!

and he missed Pererin's second album Shocked
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Damn Hugues you're a tough grader!

and he missed Pererin's second album Shocked


Ian knows where those grades are coming from (the 14 to 10 grades) and in some ways, he's right: I am a tough rater.EmbarrassedWink
For the second Pererin, I rated it 9, but I'll check it out again to see if I should reconsider.

I've never used the 15 (prefection doesn't exist) and out of the 7400 albums rated, I've used the 14 grade only 14 times and grade 13 only 100 times. Grade 12, I used it 370 times and grade 11 some 870 times.

Just like here in PA, I start rating there from the middle value (here it should be 2.5, but I default at 2 or 3 *) and over there the bulk of my ratings are 10, 9 & 8 (a lot of 7 & 11 as well) over there. 6400 of 7400 ratings are between 11 and 7... and I think it should be lower, but I can't be bothered rating artistes I don't like much unless they come in the updates.

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It's all there in the stats section, Ian.  You can check anyone's stats in the project.

For ex, I see that you've played the game fully by rating (or refused to) rate) everything the database (unlike Zappathrusta). You're one of the rare to have done so.  But my average rating is less than 9 (second or third lowest on the project), wheras you're at 10.20.




Edited by Sean Trane - August 03 2021 at 03:14
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I've never used the 15 (prefection doesn't exist)
Prefection does actually exist:), and to me perfection is any artistic expression I engage in from start to finish/beginning to end - and love wholeheartedly. As an artist perfection does not exist, but as a listener, audience or spectator - it surely does (to me)
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On Gnosis 13 is a classic, 12 a borderline classic and 11 excellent. I have a tough time looking at that list and none being classics.
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OK, there is a Gnosis mistake on the first and second Pererin albums (80 & 81 respectively) and noted there as 79 & 81.  (just like there is one for Eskaton's 4 Vision)

This means the Pererin debut did not appear on my 79 (too many excellent albums for a short list) or 80 list.
I now corrected and Haul Ar Yr Eira is the 80 list - which has a smaller list.

Will listen to Teithgan ASAP, to see if it deserves inclusion on the 81 list.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I've never used the 15 (prefection doesn't exist)
Prefection does actually exist:), and to me perfection is any artistic expression I engage in from start to finish/beginning to end - and love wholeheartedly. As an artist perfection does not exist, but as a listener, audience or spectator - it surely does (to me)


there isn't any album that couldn't be bettered.
For ex: the ultimate Caravan album (a 14 IMHO) still has the relatively poor Love To Love You.


Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

On Gnosis 13 is a classic, 12 a borderline classic and 11 excellent. I have a tough time looking at that list and none being classics.


I have no problem extending the "classic" tag to album that I grade as 11 Wink

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Edited by Sean Trane - August 03 2021 at 06:04
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I've never used the 15 (prefection doesn't exist)
Prefection does actually exist:), and to me perfection is any artistic expression I engage in from start to finish/beginning to end - and love wholeheartedly. As an artist perfection does not exist, but as a listener, audience or spectator - it surely does (to me)


there isn't any album that couldn't be bettered.
For ex: the ultimate Caravan album (a 14 IMHO) still has the relatively poor Love To Love You.
Yeah sure In the Land.... is a perfect example of a great album with one silly little track. But I don't think that's relevant for the perfection of say... Génération Sans Futur, Rock Bottom, You, First Utterance, Don Cherry/Brown Rice, Out to Lunch, Crossings, Trans Europa Express, Mark of the Mole, Third, Docteur Faust, Univers Zéro, Mirage, Phaedra mm... - none of which could or should be bettered (imo:).

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1. Rush - Moving Pictures
2. Eloy - Planets
3. Tangerine Dream - Exit
4. Jean Michel Jarre - Magnetic Fields
5. Kayak - Merlin
6. Keith Emerson - Nighthawks
7. Jon and Vangelis - The Friends Of Mr Cairo
8. Iron Maiden - Killers
9. Genesis - Abacab
10. Greg Lake - s/t

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1 - Dűn - Eros
2 - Eider Stellaire - Eider Stellaire
3 - The Muffins - 185
4 - Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
5 - However - Sudden Dusk
6 - Alain Eckert Quartet - Alain Eckert Quartet
7 - Myrbein - Myrornas Krig
8 - Cartoon - Cartoon
9 -Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
10 - King Crimson - Discipline

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Combo FH - Veci (Things)
Patrick Gauthier - Baby Godzilla
Fusion - Fusion
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1. Saga - Worlds Apart (although it wasn't released in the US until Sept '82)
2. Genesis - Abacab
3. Moody Blues - Long Distance Voyager
4. Anthony Phillips - 1984
5. Barclay James Harvest - Turn of the Tide
6. Camel - Nude
7. The Police - Ghost in the Machine
8. Rush - Moving Pictures
9. Phil Collins - Face Value
10. Steve Hackett - Cured
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Metheny and Mays--As  Falls Wichita...
Rush-Moving Pics
Eloy-Planets
Eskaton-4 Visions
KC-Discipline
Univers Zero-Ceux Du Dehors
Camel-Nude
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