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Posted: May 12 2021 at 18:04

Settle in for a long one.....great analysis of Gilmour Live in Gdansk~Echoes

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Posted: May 12 2021 at 21:33

Hi,

Very nice indeed ... and I wish that more "progressive music" was studied and looked at a bit more in this way, so that one would know the difference between "music" and a "song" ....

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Posted: May 14 2021 at 19:11

Ok, this is another long one......DT~Octavarium. I'm really enjoying his analysis not only the musical composition parts but also the lyric breakdown. His excitement over the pc is infectious, you can really tell he loves digging deep into all the musical passages and trying to figure out how they got there.

Doug is doing a great job of explaining all these songs and their grand scale and what the artists are doing that maybe some of us may take for granted because we may not fully understand it.

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Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:45

Hi,

Nice again ... DT is a strange band ... folks got attached to the early version and they did not get/understand that stuff that came later ... and in many ways, and this shows it, MUSICALLY, it is way better constructed and defined ... and unlike many bands, they used actual instruments instead of sound bites (vst's), and in some ways, that kind of shows a level of musicianship that is not always associated with a rock band at all.

Their live album with an orchestra is also one that is very strong ... even if it is not an album that most fans like, but one can quickly see the musical ability of the members and what they are attempting to do ...

It's a great band, really ... even if sometimes it seems "stuck" on a sound type (guitar thrashing -- NOW) where as in those days it was more about the composition than it was about anything else, although I think that keeping it together and making it a "symphonic" work, was quite intentional and a comment about the "songs" and "hits" that too many fans wanted!

Very nice stuff ... and the album is very good!

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Posted: May 15 2021 at 15:33

Well I for sure am not a fan of the current direction, both musical and style. I much prefer the material prior to ADTOE, most of ADTOE I do like. The most recent albums are Dead

for me.

I have always been a fan of Octavarium.

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Posted: May 16 2021 at 08:02

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Well I for sure am not a fan of the current direction, both musical and style. I much prefer the material prior to ADTOE, most of ADTOE I do like. The most recent albums are Dead

for me.

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Hi,

As much as I like the band and have seen them twice, I really think that they need to spread out the musical abilities a bit better, and help show the compositional side of the band ... I think that the bass is under-utilized, and the keyboards are almost 2nd to anything, and the guitar is too much out front, specially when it does need to be. That, btw, could be a mix issue ... but seeing them thrash it out in concert kinda takes away the great stuff they had done before ... at least that is how I see it!

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Posted: May 16 2021 at 08:43

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for me.

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Hi,

DT records are not known for being good/great sounding records. The mix is usually subpar to bad, the records/CDs are brickwalled and that is a main reason why the bass is buried in the mix. They use mixing engineers who are not well known for quality work, as it shows.

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Posted: May 16 2021 at 10:26

^ They currently have a new album in the works. Not much is known but from my understanding, it's almost all lengthier songs, all the members sound extremely excited about it and there's one shorter track that was described as a cinematic break to the chaos. They're filming videos/promo photos this week, Jordan recently said they'd probably be back on the road in September/October so maybe a mid-late summer release date?

But what's really important, is on the production front you have Jimmy T who did the recent live album doing all the sound tech/recording, and it's getting mixed by the guy who did JPs solo album: Andy Sneap. This guy is the real deal, great track record, so i'm hoping we get one of their best sounding records from the band in years. The previous guy from the last 3 albums, "Richard Chycki" has proven to be pretty incompetent, especially on Self Titled and Astonishing. I though the most recent was better, but the vocals on DOT were very reverb drowned. The vinyl/blu-ray master of that album is actually different and it sounds a lot better, much more clarity.

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Posted: May 17 2021 at 09:55

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^ They currently have a new album in the works. Not much is known but from my understanding, it's almost all lengthier songs, all the members sound extremely excited about it and there's one shorter track that was described as a cinematic break to the chaos. They're filming videos/promo photos this week, Jordan recently said they'd probably be back on the road in September/October so maybe a mid-late summer release date?

We will see....the earlier records like BC&SL and Octavarium were done at Sterling Sound and are much better, since that mastering lab is the real deal, for real! Octavarium was mastered by George Marino, a legend (RIP). I just don't get how/why Petrucci would allow the last couple records to go out sounding like they do, they must not have an ear for high end sound........probably all iPhone and ear buds.

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Posted: May 21 2021 at 21:42

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 00:41

This Friday post is really good! Doug is trying to figure out and understand the lyrics and the story, what does it mean?? LOL

His breakdown of these progressive rock classics/masterpieces is really enjoyable and educational.

Enjoy......

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 02:19

Catcher10 wrote:

I just don't get how/why Petrucci would allow the last couple records to go out sounding like they do, they must not have an ear for high end sound........probably all iPhone and ear buds.

Not sure if that's Petrucci's call or the record label. Anyway, playing loud music for decades ruins hearing. It may be that John thinks it sounds good brickwalled.

I wish Doug would mention sound quality in his reactions.

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:19

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No, he is listening thru a laptop on Bose headphones via a low fi YouTube stream.....I really enjoy and appreciate his deep knowledge of music and composition, I am learning so much what to listen for. I spun Suppers Ready last night and listened for what he does and I picked up the bass notes/pattern he mentioned, could have been taurus pedals.

I found interesting that he mentioned what I thought was an organ he said was a piano with no sustain to the keys........I still think its an organ.

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 14:17

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Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I found interesting that he mentioned what I thought was an organ he said was a piano with no sustain to the keys........I still think its an organ.

One of the instrumental sections that confused Doug was Hackett playing his Les Paul through a volume pedal, Doug couldn't figure out what the sound was.

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 14:20

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Catcher10 wrote:

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I found interesting that he mentioned what I thought was an organ he said was a piano with no sustain to the keys........I still think its an organ.

One of the instrumental sections that confused Doug was Hackett playing his Les Paul through a volume pedal, Doug couldn't figure out what the sound was.

Yea, I think that is why he said he needs to listen to it many more times.......I think he misses a lot due to talking over the music.

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Posted: May 22 2021 at 14:46

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...oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about our own PresDoug!! I was looking forward to some more trivia about Triumvirat! Tongue

PresDoug, that's the guy. I was just trying to remember who the Triumvirat guy was. I don't think he's been around for a while.

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Posted: May 24 2021 at 13:13

He did Close To The Edge a couple weeks ago.

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Posted: May 25 2021 at 18:14

Nice breakdown of this excellent song. For me he hits the nail on the head with the tone of this song and subject matter. Again Doug's expertise with composition is a great learning tool for me.

Enjoy!

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Posted: May 25 2021 at 18:19

It was well done and fun to see someone hear it for the first time. I prefer the studio version, but to me, any incarnation of King Crimson is spectacular.

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