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Second batch of listening (and not sure if I can go much further, for I will be away for a couple of days...): Raff: A bit of nostalgia... Back in '83 (or maybe '84) when I went out to buy my first vinyl, in the record store I hesitated (and thus listened) between two albums. One was a Judas Priest album. I was quite influenced by a couple of friends who were very much into hard rock, so I heard a lot of all that throughout the 80s and early 90s. Regarding Judas Priest, I think it was a subsequent album I listened to in that record store... If I had chosen it, it probably (also) would have been to nag my parents a bit, but I finally walked out with 90125 (and the rest is history, as they say). Great to hear this again, and I prefer this one over Riot, but in the end The Cult is my prefered one. All three are probably a bit too straightforward for me nowadays, but not unpleasant. Manuel de Falla, and now for something completely different. Very famous piece of music, but I wouldn't have been able to stick a name to it. I actually know this from one of Carlos Saura's dance films... Typical early 20th century piece to my ears - nice. nick_h_nz: Five the Hierophant's Fire From Frozen Cloud starts of with a very beautiful introduction, a bit middle eastern tinged thanks to the alto-sax (?). Then the heavy guitar wall sets in to overtake this. The song alternates between these two and mixes them in an interesting way. I'm not fan of this djent-like guitar style (not at all), but this is an interesting kind of jazz metal - intriguing. Lewian: Fireworks with Debussy and Stravinsky. Beforehand I would say I prefer Stravinsky... Upon listening I'd say... I prefer Stravinsky. Also because I prefer orchestral/symphonic works over solo instrumentals. But it is deceptively romantic for a Stravinsky piece (I guess it's an early work?). Funny that both have a quite similar structure, although Str. ends (of course) with a bang. Cristi: Pro Musica, "baroque" rock? No, sounds rather straightforward, typical 70s rock to me. Nice, but not much more than that. Sfinx sound very prog-pop to me. Very interesting (late 70s/early 80s?). Some typical instrumentation and that sequenced synth makes it a dated sounding work, but very good to hear. With Semnal M we are in more hard rock/rock 'n roll territory; nothing very original, but it sounds great - solid playing and nice vocal harmonies. Ioan Gyuri Pascu sounds more like a pastiche on hard rock, a bit showing of, with quirky changes of rhythm and mixing of styles. Not much fan of his vocal explorations, but this is fun thing to discover. My choice would be Sfinx, though. Hiram: Mana Mana, well, this sounds like some kind of Finish grunge? The solo guitar work is quite interesting, but for the rest this is not really my thing. A couple of months ago I saw an intersting documentary about ZZ top. They always remained for me the excentric top 40 band, but their solid hard edged blues rock is always good to hear. Regarding Meat Puppets, this does not convince me, neither regarding the playing nor - and especially - the singing. Scooter: they're in a hurry indeed, but this completely passes me by... I'll stick with ZZ top. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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I know I'm a bit early, but I have decided to nominate De Falla's "Ritual Fire Dance" for this poll. This will be a nice change from my usual selections!
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A piece by one of our local Baltimore bands, RÊVE, titled "Moths":
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Finished up Page One this afternoon. First thoughts, as well as some additions from Nick.
Nick: Mikko Joensuu “House of
Fire” Begins with warbly keys and synthy
bubbly sounds. The tension builds as the
general sound is repeated, lovely ambient piece, it is becoming clear by the
first 3 minutes. Sparkly notes start to
alter the piece gradually (sparks?).
Ooooh, here come some guitars, or looped something similar on synths,
not sure. Little accent weeeegleeeees go
spinning out and flashes of plucky keyboards (if that makes any sense, you’ll
get used to my “technical terms,” when describing music, Nick, lol). Vocals come in about halfway through, and
yes, it does sound a bit like guitar underpinning the vocal, which is very
lysergic and spooky at once. Some percussive elements are now added. Whirlies
and tinklies close the offering, with a fadeout of what reminds me of bending a
saw and hearing the whooshing noise that makes.
Very eerie piece for the most part, as you can probably guess, I also
quite enjoy this one. Yama
Warashi “Set Fire to the Village” Here
we have some pops and thunks, then some keyboards and a female intones and
singsongs her way about in the music, which is mostly electronic in feel. Being so much shorter, there is less to say
than the previous. I liked some of the musical
elements, not as much her particular kind of voice. The Veils “Sit Down By The Fire” Here is a more traditional sort of tune,
singer has a clear voice and the sound is a bit Waterboys-ish (who I almost
brought to this poll) to my ear. Pil
& Bue “Fire” Wailing guitar and
metallic percussion, then lots of sustained feedback, with some bass very quiet
in the background. Sounds as if it’s
recorded in a warehouse. Wailing female
lead enters the scene and the sound scales back to percussion and that
sustained feedback again. More regular
guitar builds the tension next, percussion remaining spot on and complex. Two voices now intertwine, more emphatically,
as the band plays on. Cristi: Pro Musica “Poarta de foc” Drumbeats begin this one, with a hooky
repetitive lead guitar lick. Male
vocalist . Like the complexity here, the
embellishments and the time changes. I
couldn’t find the lyrics in English, but really do enjoy what they are doing
musically. Sounds 70’s ish to me, an era
of which I am fond. The mix is a little
odd, but may be live? Ah yes, so the
applause would indicate. Cool track. Sfinx “Focuri viii” Keyboards to the fore here and some
wailing-type guitar. Soft male vocals
with blipping keys continuing on in the front of the mix. Symphonic, floaty feel, again, no English
lyrics to help me along, but I’ll take your word for it that it’s fire
related. That bubbly keyboard continues
with lead guitar in the center. Semnal
M “O roată de
foc” ZZ Top style guitar, then chorused
vocals proceed with a very basic rock feel and structure. This sounds again
like 70’s and no English lyrics can I find, but they were good at what they
did. Organ lead in the middle. Ioan Gyrui Pascu “Tara arde si babele se
piaptan” Heavy guitars, drums and organ,
then a wonkly little keyboard break.
Sort of a sarcastic sounding talky vocal, I like the guys voice when he
sings, however. The keyboards sometimes
sound vaguely Middle Eastern. I like
your first one the best, here. Hiram: Mana Mana “Totuus Palaa” Sustained guitar, then very heavy drums, makes me think very heavy psych. Can’t tell what he’s singing about, but I’ll go with your translated title. Could be song of the day, here in the US. ZZ Top “Master of Sparks” Now this I am very familiar with (a surprise fave band of my husband), and funny I mentioned them earlier. This is typical ZZ Top fare, they are perfect at what they do. Meat Puppets “Lake of Fire” Fairly heavy here, also and a bit alt/punkish, perhaps. Vocalist has a quavery voice, mostly in one tone, actually kinda reminds me of Ray Davies (who uses a bit more range). Sometimes the guitar has elements of heavy psych. Scooter “Fire” Driving and thrashy high-energy, also toys with disco and rap. Someone give these guys some speed! 😉 Tancos: Scriabin: "Flammes sombres" Solo piano avant garde-ish piece (and I want that pianists’s dress. I looked up the composer, who had synesthesia, apparently….so you are not far off with “psychedelia,” as a descriptive! Ended a bit abruptly, but it was quite varied and not at all what I expected from your intro. Another by Scribin, Vladimir Horowitz plays “Vers la flamme” Begins very quietly and ominously. There are some frilly flourishes from time to time. This is very haunting and beautiful so far (halfway). The intensity v e r y gradually builds and flourishes become more frequent as the sound seems to suggest flames beginning to gain in size and strength. A nice roaring end comes to pass. Sister Irene O’ Connor “Fire” Haunting voice, which becomes a bit elfin with dancing electronic keyboards. Hard to describe this in any way but whimsical and with a feeling of elemental enchantment, perhaps these are little fire elves. Which is pretty amusing, as it’s a Catholic nun, who might not approve of little fiery sprites. Logan: Mandy More “If Not By Fire” Here is a piece, much more in your face than the one we just left, offered up by Tancos. Sort of a hippie-ish sounding singer/songwriter woman with a very angular, nasal sort of quality to her voice. Some electronics are going on here, the song is a bit of a march in feel, as well, the production is a bit muddy, but I think it’s intentional here. The keyboards sound a bit like jaw harp through an effect. Mandingo “Black Fire” Quiet finger-pats on a drum and the sound of a guerro-like instrument, joined quickly by bass. Flutes (or on keys, a flutes effect) come along, with a definitely African sort of sound and bird whistles join in with wah wah Shaft-style guitar. I could see this being a tv show soundtrack from the time, perhaps a companion to “Daktari,” which I brought very early to these polls. Horn section and gong from side to side in separation cuts into the song and an even more jungle-esque feel with wailing organ and lots and lots of percussion, plus horn section, a really groovy bit here. They couldn’t resist using that gong one last time. Franco Micalizzi “Fire in the Garage” This is obviously a soundtrack, from the poster on the video. Ominous, hope the place doesn’t blow! The piece becomes a bit edgy and atonal, with flutes, soft percussion, and orchestra reaching a slow fever crescendo and a sudden end. Harumi “Fire By The River” Pretty shimmery organ opens this up, percussion joins quite quickly, then Japanes-y guitar, very western-sounding female vocalist. This sounds much like studio production of the sort used with Tim Buckley’s “Goodbye and Hello,” era. Farfisa and vibes intertwine with his (corrected, I misidentified it as, "her") light vocal. Very early 70’s ish sound to it, which is certainly not a negative, to me. This is the most fetching one you’ve brought this time. Edited by Snicolette - May 12 2021 at 18:23 |
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Lewian
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Just starting to listen, I can say I prefer the Banco de Gaia out of George's by quite some distance. @suitkees: I read that Stravinsky was invited by Diaghilev to do the Firebird music upon hearing Feu d'artifice, so a quite early work indeed. Nicky: Yes, I was toying around with choosing something from Firebird as well.
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Seeing the amount of music being posted once again, I think I will once again wait until the final nominations are chosen before I begin to listen.
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Logan
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Many thanks, Nickie, I was looking forward to reading your impressions. Harumi Ando is a male musician and vocalist from Japan who went to New York and recorded this around 1967/1968 – released in 1968. I don't know what happened to him after that. The producer was Tom Wilson, who has an amazing CV, which includes music by Bob Dylan, Frank Zappa, Soft Machine, Sun Ra, Simon & Garfunkel, The Velvet Underground, Nico, Eric Burdon & the Animals, Pete Seeger, John Coltrane, Country Joe and the Fish, Jon Mayall, Gil-Scott Heron, Herbie Mann, and many other notable names. Frank Zappa was dismissive of Harumi's album and called it a "flower-power album" Of course it even has flowers on the cover – it's a very collectible album if you ever are lucky enough to find it in a thrift shop on vinyl. I like its East meets West qualities. The song I listed is from a double-album, with side C and D each having one track per side, which are more Japanese and jammy. Mandy More's “If Not by Fire” is the one I have been leaning to. Like with Harumi, this is off a sole album artist, at least of which I am aware. She was known as a British theatre actress and for being involved in musical theatre. I first got to know one of the Christian themed songs sung by her as I was very interested in the flower power, psych and Jesus Freak type music from the late 60s and early 70s. She was in the musical Godspell. The sound quality could be better, this is taken from an old vinyl. There's something about the song that reminds me in part of Doris' hit song “Did You Give the World Some Love Today, Baby”. There are a few versions of "If Not by Fire" (demos...). I love the strange vibe that a certain instrumentation gives it -- that makes it sound much less ordinary and elevates it for me in terms of interest. As for Mandingo, I love Mandingo. I put up another Mandingo track in one of these interactive polls. I love its jazz-funk exotica qualities. It does have a similar sound to various soundtracks/ library music. I love this kind of music. Franco Micalizzi is, a, I think, great soundtrack composer, and this is a soundtrack that I enjoy very much. While I own the soundtrack, I don't think that I've even seen the film. When it first saw this topic, the first thing to come to mind (as well as some things I thought too well-known such as Midnight Oil's Beds are Burning) was another soundtrack, Ennio Morricone's Queimada / Burn!, but then I thought, maybe I have gone on a little too much about the “Maestro” at PA. By the way, I have listened to the selections offered by others, but do have a hard time sincerely writing my impressions without venturing into some rather contemptible humorising. I do hugely appreciate those who take the time and put themselves out there by sharing their thoughts on the music/ in sharing their impressions of the music, but of course this is a challenge that we can not all take, or take all the time. Edited by Logan - May 12 2021 at 18:16 |
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If we're talking burning boats, two come to mind -- CSN's 'Wooden Ships', a sublime classic of the folk-rock era that may not necessarily be about ships on fire. And of course '80s viking classic 'Now Your Ships Are Burned' from Yngwie's Rising Force album. Didn't vote because there are no options yet. |
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I've corrected my misidentification of Harumi's gender, thank you for letting me know. Sometimes I've looked up people, perhaps I should more often, as this is the second time I've done this....or I'm losing my hearing, perhaps on some level? Thank you for letting me know. Absolutely, on the sheer number of pieces and the time it takes to comment, even briefly. I was just thinking if 15 people respond with 3 each, that's 45 pieces of music to listen to and comment on. I've been reluctant to do a long review of something on PA, but perhaps, bearing that in mind, the idea isn't quite as daunting (provided I research my facts readily enough, lol) as it seems. It's a reason why, usually, I do keep my beginning post to 3, unless they're quite short. And sometimes will post an additional in response to someone, but then consider those out of the running and mostly for that single responder to listen to, should they feel so inclined.
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That's cool. |
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I 'ear you. One does have to be extra careful with assigning gender and gender assumptions these days – one person I know goes by a gender neutral label, then there's gender fluid, gender dynamic, non-binary gender, not to mention fursona non grata.... Harumi might sound like a feminine name to certain ears, and he does have a gentle, quite delicate, rather effeminate one might say, voice. Certainly he doesn't have the robust bass vocals of Barry White, but then he is no Geddy Lee either. ;) It might be that your equalizer settings are high on the treble side – I keep the bass lower on mine and the treble higher, and yes, it could be a hearing issue (not necessarily permanent). Yes, it is an awful lot to try to comment on, and for some even just trying to listen to this amount would be too taxing. For me it's not so much time as it is talent. It's funny that I ended up spending so long and being so involved on a music site as music is not something where my descriptive powers, beyond the most prosaic terminology, are robust. I quite wish I could be more poetic when it comes to describing my experience, and that I had more of a music theory background to ground what I say at the forum. Music is something I appreciate and is very important to me, but its not something I've ever really delved into much beyond that appreciation. Describing the experience even to myself just doesn't do it justice – the description will be superficial and not transcendental. Music is like magic to me, and even if I understand the trick, conveying that sense of wonder in what is to me a satisfying manner let alone to any others, well that would be magical if I could do it. The sheer eclectic magnitude in the qualities of the music, which is something I love about these topics, also makes it harder in a way to comment, I feel. Often one is switching gears and mindset from song to song, from listen to listen, the second impression might be significantly different from the first. |
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I understand completely about how does one exactly get descriptive of music when one isn't grounded in theory. I just make up descriptive words, but I do enjoy reading some of the more educated folk in here who DO know whereof they speak and exactly how to describe what is occurring in the music.
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First listen thoughts on Page Two entries and an addition from Lewian.
Lewian: Test Dept “Two Flames Burn” Electronic bleeps
and blonks work together to create an atmosphere of flickering light. Woingy bass sounds (or maybe on a percussion
something) add tension to the building layers of bell-like metallic
sounds. A spoken effected voice joins
in. The intensity continues as the voice
leaves and then returns. A group sort of
chant comes in, not sure what they are all saying. Everything fades, then perhaps a small
cowbell at the end?
Mike: Mae “The House That Fire Built” Starts off with interesting riffs on guitar
and drums, kind of a raga-ish sound until the singer comes in. Soft-voiced, kind of alt-rock sound, I’m also
surprised it didn’t do better in it’s time.
Blame the manager! Blame the
record company! Good band from this
piece, I would certainly have turned the radio up for them. Nice break a bit in, a bridge with wangly
bass and wispy/distorted vocals, dreamlike.
Lots of energy halfway in, keyboards join in and the regular vocals
start in again. Ends with music
stopping, and footsteps squooshing outside, and the sound of far away guitar
for a (m)oment. Spiritualized “Soul On
Fire” Sort of a lazy-voiced (another one
who reminds me a bit of Ray Davies) singer with effected orchestral touches and
washy electric guitars, there is also a choral type vocal way back in the mix. During
the vocals the music gets very simple to let the vocal stand nearly alone. Ends in guitar feeding back. Gotye “Smoke & Mirrors” I like the start, kind of clacky percussive
sounds and organ-ish keys, in a minor-sounding kinda spooky thing. Vocals are confessional-sounding, like
someone being really sincere. I also
find the plinky/glass-tube-y sounds pleasing.
The intensity comes in and drifts out.
I like the jungly-haunty feel and the strange electronic hits that come
sneaking in from time to time. There is
also a sort of tribal chant happening back in the mix which adds to the
atmosphere, as it becomes a percussive drum-circle kind of thing before ending. Bonus of The White Stripes “Catch Hell Blues” Heard a lot about this band, not really heard
much, though. So let’s see what they’re
about. Slide guitar starts with a guy talking a bit,
while noodling about on it. The guy
continues to talk for a second and then they go full-blown into the slide and
drums flailing about. A more angular
section begins with bar chords and a bluesy vocal and lead guitar chimes in. The drums stop and the guitar noodles off
some more for a while, with drums kicking back in after a few seconds and back
to the flailing. The guitar is very high-endy
for a while, then back down and sliding out the back door. My fave this round was Gotye. The Anders: Contact “Vagarnas Natt” Love the title. From the translation, they sound like they are wary of wolves. I like the slippy-slidy violin-type sounds. There is some very pointed guitar, joining in with the chorused vocals. The violin sound makes me think of wolves howling the guitar, also, perhaps, yipping of wolves. Good, nightmarish atomosphere (although I have a fondness for the creatures). Lorenzo: John Mellencamp “Paper In Fire” This song was played much in the US, I do enjoy it, but can’t vote for it, due to familiarity. Love the harmonies and the Americana kind of feel. Good energy in tis. Lalli “I Fuochi” Spare piano begins the piece, with an imploring sort of female vocal. Echo-y voices in background, sounds like they were recorded in a church, perhaps. I can’t find the lyrics in English, but her voice is so terribly evocative of sadness. She reaches some really beautiful depths in her tone. Very soul-wrenching. Electric band comes in about halfway in and her pace also picks up. She sounds like she is coming to some resolve to me, despite what sounds like an anguishing situation, but I’m just guessing. Her voice comes in, in an echo-y sense, is she haunting herself with whatever happened? I like this very much, very emotional piece. Progishness: This Moral Coil “Fire Brothers” I have heard much of this band, but never have had a chance to sit and listen to them. Organ washes and an echoed voice start the piece off and continues in the same way. Would make a good soundtrack piece, it seems to me. Aha! Near the end some wailing guitar joins the organ for a bit, with some helicopter-ish sounds. Julee Cruise “The Fire In Me,” I think I know this one, wasn’t she David Lynch’s big find? Let’s see if it’s what I think it is. Yep. Very atmospheric and moody, she was perfect for his film/tv material. This one is less so, but still retains that flair enough to be recognizable as her. I know this one, so can’t vote for it, but it’s a great addition to the queue here. Ruth Copeland “Play With Fire” One of my fave RS songs, this one is done even more dirge-like and in a biting vocal from a woman, this time. I certainly wouldn’t mess with her! She’s pissed. Strong voice and driving production by the band punctuate the tune. An imaginative and powerful arrangement of the original tune, with some added lyrics. dr wu23: Joni Mitchell “Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire” This LP was constantly on ex-sil’s record player when visiting their family’s home, so too familiar for me to vote. But a beautiful recording and a perfectly apt song for the queue here. Joni, always so inventive, she really started to branch out and stretch in new ways, first with “Blue,” and then, here. Blacksword: XTC “Great Fire” Whangy guitars and complex production and playing here. I do know of XTC and even some songs, but not this one. I love the violin/cello/whatever joining in. The vocals not so fond of, but it suits the material. Big Country “Fields of Fire” Smash hit, so can’t vote for it, but I was a really enjoyable song, despite getting almost over-played, at least where I was when it was out. Stevie Nicks “Rooms on Fire” This one also got lots of airplay, of course, with megastar Steve Nicks on the mic and writer’s seat. Perfectly produced, as one would expect from Rupert Hine. I looked at the credits and found that Tony Levin played bass on at least some of the tracks from the album. Excellent pop music. |
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Thanks once again for the comments. Not only is it violin-type sounds, the band actually had two violinists. The slippy-slidy playing technique is called glissando btw. (I've played violin myself)
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I hope i'm not too late to post 3 choices from which to select one nominee later. First choice is Fire and Brimstone by Link Wray - He always was the underdog but brought a lot of innovation and experimental distortion Second choice for me would be This Fire of Autumn by Tindersticks - This group never forget to surprise me. Third Choice would be Babylondon's Burning by Suns of Arqa - a collective group of musicians since 1979 fusion style Raga, Dub, Electronica - and many, many albums with much goodies for everyone |
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I'll add a few suggestions that no one else will like, but since I enjoy sharing.
Glenn Tipton - Baptizm of Fire Big Head Todd and the Monsters - City on Fire The Winery Dogs |
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So much music, so little time. Some random mentions of stuff that I liked (in case somebody needs help with choosing their nomination): The Ritual Fire Dance is phantastic (although I knew that one already; can't go wrong with Scriabin either) Five the Hierophant Noir Désir Gotye Jimmy Spheeris If I don't mention something it may well mean I haven't heard it yet (I stopped somewhere on p.2 and have missed some on p.1). |
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