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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Lately the drummer magazine made a poll who was the best drummer of all time. Neil Peat won.
Could you share the name of this drummer magazine?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2021 at 15:12
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Lately the drummer magazine made a poll who was the best drummer of all time. Neil Peart won.
Could you share the name of this drummer magazine?

I wanted to write "music magazine". It was Music Radar.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2021 at 16:46
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Lately the drummer magazine made a poll who was the best drummer of all time. Neil Peart won.
Could you share the name of this drummer magazine?

I wanted to write "music magazine". It was Music Radar.
Thanks. Neil is a great drummer who would make my top ten for sure. MusicRadar's best drummer poll was based on votes from subscribers. I can't take any poll that lists Tommy Lee as one of the best seriously.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2021 at 22:05
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I would suggest that a band that sells 3 albums and a t-shirt to their grandparents cannot, by the very nature of the term, be considered even vaguely in any "Big Six". I would further suggest that an album that made the charts in Lichtenstein, San Marino or Andorra does not grant access to a "Big Six". 

By record sales, I would suggest the Big Six are:

Pink Floyd
Genesis
Yes
The Moody Blues
Jethro Tull
ELP

with King Crimson tagging along with their one gold album, which in itself is an achievement for a prog band. You might add Mike Oldfield as a consideration, because he's done quite well for himself.

Why I bring this up is that it takes a unique sort of band to have the level of creativity to be considered progressive, to compose important and widely recognized prog albums, and still be wildly popular on a global scale. 

<b style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">*EDIT - I neglected to remember Rush for the list. As they sold more albums than ELP, they get bumped. Sorry Carl, Keith and Greg.
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ELP had several albums reaching the TOP 10 in both UK and USA, and they were the first prog band to gain big commercial success, they definitely belong in any Big Six. Especially since Moody Blues aren't really prog and Genesis didn't sold anywhere as much Yes/ELP/Tull when they were doing prog. Rush, well, are they really seen as a prog band? I think a lot of people that listen to Rush don't really know what prog is. They did have a prog era but also a pop era and a hard rock era. 

Mike Oldfield could be considered too (if we include solo artists). Tubular Bells was a massive hit, but he failed to replicate that after.


Perhaps he sadly was unable to replicate the hit of Tubular Bells again, but as far as my enjoyment of the music (I would like to say quality of the music), he kept on going strong for the 70's, making many masterpieces just as great as TB. And even afterwards he's done wonderful music again, specially with his latest Return to Ommadawn, which impressed me how beautifully he came back to his 70's sound.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I've always had a fascination with baseball statistics, that is, until players started breaking records while on drugs. What amazed me about this is that every statistician thought they could come up with the best way to determine who the greatest players were. I even dabbled in this a little but myself, but ultimately gave up when I could not determine how important fielding statistics would be overall and the types of data I needed were not readily available (this was before computers). In almost all cases, number 1 usually ended up being Babe Ruth. Thereafter, the top lists always diverged from each other on who was 2, 3, 4, and so on. I would opine that the Big Six is a bit more complicated than it looks at first and involves a lot of different variables in which each of us would have differing opinions of how valuable each of those variables are (and even which variables should be included). As such, that would explain why nobody can agree on the same order and sometimes which bands should be in it. And that's the way it should be. Accept it and then go listen to something good, whether it's in a list or not.

This will be my one semi-coherent thought for this year. For the rest of the year it will be nothing but loads of gibberish.
So basically, we need that guy from Money Ball... except for prog...
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