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Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:


Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!

Intriguing. Care to tell what ROCKS?
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible



Well, I love 'em both. (Should that be my big Prog Secret??)

There is some compatibility:  According to Rush's website, they were "Very Inspired" by VDGG (among some other bands--mostly with their late 70's output).   Particularly, I've heard that their creation of Cygnus X-1 was inspired by Pioneers Over C, though I don't remember where I read this.  In any case, the two tracks are similar in concept.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:44
Let's see what I can say to get kicked from the site...
(1) I don't know whether I had heard any Rush before I joined the site in 2015. Chances are I had, but it hadn't left any impression on me. So I really didn't know how they sound when I saw everyone discussing them here.
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(2) I like Under Wraps more than the first three Jethro Tull albums.

As a massive Art Zoyd fan I actually find more embarrassing that I hadn't heard any Univers Zero before joining the site, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with that (OK massive Art Zoyd fans are few and far between but at least the world is full of people who don't know Univers Zero Tongue).


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed
 
My first Frank Zappa album was Baby Snakes, which I bought for Titties & Beer.
 
 
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The first time I heard "Moya" on vinyl from "Godspeed You! Black Emperor" on vinyl, I played it at 33 1/3 rpm and it was supposed to be played at 45 rpm.  Going even further, it wasn't the first time I heard it, and I still didn't realize it.  Yet, it still sounded pretty great.  (Just in case anyone picks that up on vinyl, be warned that side A is 45 rpm and side B is 33 1/3 rpm just to make it even more interesting....I love finding those little vinyl surprises like that.)

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My "embarrassing prog secret" is that I'm not a big fan of Yes (except for Fragile and CTTE). But strangely enough, I'm a HUGE fan of The Flower Kings and symphonic prog in general.

Am I normal? Embarrassed
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I suppose it's not too embarrassing that some proggers don't like Yes as it seems to be the case in several of the comments here.  In my early prog days, I didn't like Yes that much either, but I stayed determined to "get it" since they were so highly regarded in prog circles.  And I did get it.  They have become one of my favorite all-time bands.  It's not easy music to get into and requires a lot of commitment to truly "get it" because it is quite complex.  

So, I guess it's normal to not like Yes but to love prog.  I thought I was abnormal too, but have since seen the light.  The payoff for the time I put into it all was worth it.

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Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible



Well, I love 'em both. (Should that be my big Prog Secret??)

There is some compatibility:  According to Rush's website, they were "Very Inspired" by VDGG (among some other bands--mostly with their late 70's output).   Particularly, I've heard that their creation of Cygnus X-1 was inspired by Pioneers Over C, though I don't remember where I read this.  In any case, the two tracks are similar in concept.
I remember a video interview of Geddy mentioning VdGG as a band he listens to and drew some musical inspiration from, there is no reason why they would not be influenced by VdGG. 
"We" think we know so much about these bands and what they were doing and listening to back in the day...
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible


Au contraire! Both are my favorite bands! But i'm a music nerd on steroids so i guess i don't count LOL


Dirty secrets? I can only listen to Caravan's Land of the Grey and Pink dressed as a pig


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:




Dirty secrets? I can only listen to Caravan's Land of the Grey and Pink dressed as a pig

There's another way to listen to Land of the Grey and Pink?

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That I still, to this day, have never heard Gentle Giant, and I have no idea what they sound like.
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Here's an embarrassing Halloween costume I once made for myself with like zero budget or skills. xD
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

That I still, to this day, have never heard Gentle Giant, and I have no idea what they sound like.

WHAT ?! Shocked

But, in fact, you're lucky! Many discoveries to come!!
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

I could hardly stand listening to Yes when I first discovered them. Hardly coped with the vocals.
However, they are among my all-time favorite bands now.

I was that way with Genesis. Listened to Selling England by the Pound and didn't get it at all. And then after a few tries every few years, one day it suddenly clicked, and I became a massive fan of the Gabriel-era.

Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

A few months ago I had a sudden desire to listen to his music and dived in, especially the Dionne albums. I especially feel that way about Michel Legrand's work, especially his French musicals; or Francoise Hardy's 60s albums; they're like time machines to a different era.

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Is Burt Bacharach prog?
Time to add the Carpenters to PA LOL


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I'm a big fan of from genesis to revelation, time and a word, tormato and and then there were three.  Tongue
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

My "embarrassing prog secret" is that I'm not a big fan of Yes (except for Fragile and CTTE). But strangely enough, I'm a HUGE fan of The Flower Kings and symphonic prog in general.

Am I normal? Embarrassed
Well, you ought to be. LOL
I enjoy both Yes and The Flower Kings, and I do not understand when the latter gets the regressive rock flak!

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I've never once listened to a bit of Magma.  I guess I should get on with it, eh?
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.....I actually hate.... prog




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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed
 
My first Frank Zappa album was Baby Snakes, which I bought for Titties & Beer.
 
 

Now what will you give me for your titties and beer? I suppose you've noticed this little contract here?
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Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!
I love this post. Live your truth, friend.
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