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nick_h_nz
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No! Thank you! It’s wonderful that someone else like these. I did wonder when I posted if anyone would like them at all, as they are definitely far from the usual fare that passes through this forum. Both really resonated with me last year, and continue to get a lot of play from me. Just in case it was not clear, Rattle is the record label. Nau Mai e Kā Hua is by Ariana Tikao and Al Fraser. Ariana definitely does have a beautiful voice, and it complements the taonga pūoro perfectly. If you like the sound of taonga pūoro, there are lots of really interesting albums I can recommend. One that sounds very different from this is from David Harrow and Al Fraser, and was another of the “Five-in-Five”. Day four brought the reappearances of David Harrow (day one) and Al Fraser (day three), and Mixed Messages is a great title, too, as the synthesised and electronic sounds of Harrow meet and meld with the acoustic and natural sounds of Fraser. It’s a collaboration over oceans, as London-born Harrow provided his parts from his studio in the US, while Fraser recorded his in his studio in New Zealand. The two quite contrasting styles and sounds, ancient and modern, mesh beautifully. Once again, the cover art really symbolises the music within. The Bandcamp page calls these soundscapes, and they certainly could easily be part of a soundtrack. Eulogy, for instance, would fit perfectly within the soundtrack to a film such as The Crow. The music of Mixed Messages is the most evocative of the Five-in-Five yet, and I find it hard not to imagine visuals for the music as I listen to it. There are many times when the drones of taonga pūoro are so well matched with the drones of electronica, that it’s hard to imagine they aren’t meant to be played together. A particularly vivid example is Tamumu, which quite rightly, in my opinion, is the centrepiece of the album. I was curious what the title might mean, so looked it up. ‘Tamumu’ is a buzz or hum, so it’s an incredibly apt title. It’s dramatic and menacing and unsettling – and an absolute thrill to listen to. Yet, as great as I think it is, it’s not even my favourite track. Rattle definitely have it right when they call this album compelling. There is an incredible variety of moods on this album, yet it remains quite cohesive, and never jarring. Just as the two quite disparate layers of instrumentation never clash. The messages may be mixed, but they are mixed perfectly. And if you like the harp, and you’ve not heard Mary Lattimore’s Silver Ladders album from last year, you need to rectify that. I did consider putting her forward as well, because again watery themes dominate. But of the two harp albums, I far prefer Adenine - plus she is less well known than Mary Lattimore, and I like to support the underdog! 😄 Silver Ladders was released the week after Adenine’s, and pretty much overwhelmed any opportunity Adenine might have had to promote her album.. Lattimore may live in the US, but this album was recorded in Newquay amid a Cornish winter, which can be as dreary and drizzly – or should I say dreich? – as the Scottish. Like Adenine, Lattimore’s harp is accompanied by some subtle synth accents and flourishes, but Silver Ladders also features the guitar of Neil Halstead whose addition adds an extra touch. The album opens with Pine Trees, and it’s simple and beautiful, or maybe simply beautiful. My three year old daughter immediately exclaimed, “I like the song!”. I do, too. The following Silver Ladders alludes not to the coast at Newquay, but a memory of the sea at Stari Grad, Croatia. Even if you did not know this, you would surely think of the sea, as this piece has an undeniably aquatic vibe. Its watery notes gently fall, as the synth ebbs and flows beneath. I love the peaceful, yet ominous tones of Til a Mermaid Drags You Under, somehow caught between drifting and drowning. It’s a beautiful track, but darkly so. Lattimore mentions aspects of her time in Newquay that made their way into her music. One such is “the night walks to the top of the hill to see the moon shining on the water”, which must surely belong to Sometimes He’s in My Dreams? Or maybe I’m ascribing my own memories to the piece, as it evokes the many evenings I gazed down at the St Kilda Surf from the rise above it, lost in silent contemplation of the breaking waves, and the efflorescence of the surf under the moonlight. Despite the anecdote that led to the title of Chop on the Climbout, it’s anything but choppy. And despite being about the sky, I still hear the sea. The thrum of white noise is probably meant to evoke that which is ever-present in the cabin of an aircraft, and yet it’s also eerily similar to the sound of being alone in the sea, letting it all wash and crash over you, or even just the sound you might hear when you put a seashell to your ear. Either way, sea or sky, there’s a sense of floating, Like Mermaid before it, Don’t Look is a favourite track. Is it because these tracks are longer? Because they have a sense of tragedy? I’m not sure. They are both fairly simple, yet incredibly evocative. And depending on where your attention is, Don’t Look can even offer some genuine jump scares. Thirty Tulips is almost an anticlimactic end to the album after the drama and emotion of Don’t Look, but it soon ingratiates itself, with its pretty melodies, that sound to me like falling rain. Or perhaps I still merely have Adenine in my head? As different as these two albums are, they do share so many similarities. If you like one, chances are you will like the other, too. It’s all too easy to throw music like this in the too-hard basket, or dismiss it as new age. (By the way, there’s nothing wrong with new age, per se, but a great deal of music labelled that way tends to be soulless and without substance or story.) Maybe as I have a natural love for rain and for the sea, this music speaks more to me, but I’m fairly confident it’s just because these are two damn fine albums. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who enjoys experimental and conceptual ambient sounds should definitely give both Adenine and Silver Ladders a listen. |
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Great theme! These float my boat... Tindersticks - Whiskey & Water: Moon Ate The Dark - She / Swimming: Jean-Louis Murat - À la morte fontaine: (tanslation of the first verses, afterwards they're repeated with some minor variations): At the Still Fountain When I was taking a walk I found the water so beautiful That I took a swim I found the water so beautiful That I took a swimAt the still fountain Love oh my loved (in a later verse : At the still fountain / What a damned soul...) |
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Many thanks for your thoughtful write-up on my and others selections as always. Truly a joy to read. EDIT: By the way, I should have mentioned this before but I think that this is one of the very best titles we have had for a theme. Love it. Edited by Logan - May 01 2021 at 05:46 |
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Oh, and Raff forgot this one... Angelo Branduardi - La pulce d'acqua: (English translation of the lyrics here) |
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Raff
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I didn't. I have the album, and love it to bits, but Branduardi is on PA in Prog-Related. For the same reason, I didn't post Fabrizio de André's masterful cover of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" (which is set on the banks of a river).
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^ Ah, my bad. Would never have thought to find him on PA, so I didn't even look... Damned prog-imperialism... |
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For my third selection, this one may be too known as it's been in various movie and TV soundtracks. By Argentinian musician and composer Gustavo Santoalalla (Oscar winner for Brokeback Mountain and Babel), the title "Iguazu" refers to the waterfall in South America and means 'big water.' This live version done last year is new to me as I was looking for a video. It has Gustavo playing his ronroco from his studio in LA and violinist Javier Casalla in a theater in Buenos Aires.
Gustavo Santaolalla "Iguazu: |
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@suitkees: The video for Tindersticks is not available for me. This one is but does it play for you? To check, it's album version at 5:52.
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Hiram
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The Flaming Lips video isn't available for me.
Many interesting songs here. I probably won't have time/energy to comment all/many/any in length, but I like a lot of what I'm hearing.
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^^ Works, George, and it's the same. Thanks! |
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Some of my first impressions... (to be continued)
TCat: "Here Comes The River" by Patrick Watson is in a way a simple, modest song, but probably because of that very beautiful: great, minimalist piano playing with a simple but very effective orchestration makes this a moving song. Good choice! Granddaddy's Crystal Lake is indeed more straightforward and poppy; nice, but it doesn't have the same impact. I very much like the acoustic guitar playing on Tears by The Stone Roses throughout the song but after the intro it becomes a bit too much of a typical indie-rock track for my tastes; good song though. Logan: Nick Drake, well, is Nick Drake... Always great, but too well known to vote for, I guess. Extradition, with A Water Song. Very pure, this, and very watery. Quite like this! (my cat a bit less: she thought to hear a howling wolf!). And I love most of PJ Harvey, but I actually don't know this album. The River is quite an intimate song, and I love the sonic quality of it. Very nice! You brought us Stringtronics before, and again I love it, especially the symphonic/electronic quality of it. Hiram: Radiopuhelimet are not really my cup of tea, but there is some good playing going on indeed. It's mainly the voice that puts me off. From these two I, by far, prefer Merellä - it conveys an interesting atmosphere. I'm very familiar with Einstürzende Neubauten so I can only say: love them, although this is not a track I prefer (I was hesitating to put their Ozean & Brandung up here)! With Tom Waits we have another artist I'm too familiar with to contend for my vote here, but it's a great track! Snicolette: Don't know this supergroup Cry Cry Cry, but the Cold Missouri Waters will warm up with this song. Although it sounds rather "classic" to my ears, everything is on the right place: great singing, playing, rhythm... I do like it. Not sure if Toad the Wet Sprocket conquered Europe - I never heard of them. This song leaves me quite indifferent - maybe because it lacks originality to my ears: a nice pop ballad, but not much more than that. Now, what have Scots to do in the clay of our polders? And furthermore, it sounds Chinese! And I never found sugar can and tea growing there, but anyway, this is a beautiful song. As pure as the Extradition one above and an intriguing mix of celtic/chinese traditional music. And what a wonderful voice! Nice discovery! Shadowyzard: I'm not at all a fan
of baroque music, so Händel (with the dots...) is what I try to avoid.
This represents much of what I find boring in music. Sorry. |
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Raff
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For those who may be interested, here's the English translation of both the Italian songs I posted yesterday: |
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Well, I was being a little ironic with my "supergroup," title for Cry Cry Cry. Although these three are very well known on the acoustic circuits, and some more than others, none were quite so well known as, say, Tracy Chapman. Toad is definitely a west coast late 80's pop-ish band, there were quite a few around then who were very good at this sort of well-crafted pop song. And yes, I've been really wanting to get Susan McKeown in somewhere and absolutely love the surprise on this particular piece, as well as finding that a particularly fine album of hers (this was the title track). Glad you enjoyed it!
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Lewian
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This one is out of competition as I had the Comsats already, but still, for those who'd like to know more of them, At Sea: |
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First impressions... (2nd instalment, to be continued...)
jamesbaldwin: Alberto Fortis with Mary proposes a gentle pop-rock ballad, a bit too passe-partout and too sweet for me. Dave Matthews Band install us in a slow rhythm and I like this contained rock sound, with toggling electric guitar and banjo every once in a while. Very pleasant listen, although unsettling in its lyrics, but a bit linear... Francesco Guccini, once again, but keep him coming. Maybe not the most original song of his (very classic in a way), that you have suggested here, but it's my preferred of the three. Love the musicality in it, with the sax, the accordeon and you can feel the sincerity in his singing. JD and his overdose of songs: Several well known artists. The Doobie Brothers song is nice, but leaves me a bit indifferent. Enya's Orinoco Flow, that was a smashing hit at the end of the 80s and maybe a bit overplayed then. It has all that it needs, and it is wonderful but a bit too polished to my ears (and I still prefer Clannad). Gordon Lightfoot brings us a wonderful song with his well known quality; a touching storytelling aspect, classic in its structure, but very captivating. Gowan, not sure I heard of him (other than that he joineds Styx). This is a rather typical 80s AOR song, but (so?) I like it very much. His voice makes me think a bit of Chris DeBurgh, and actually, his music a bit too (of som DB's 80s outings...). Nice! Ah, Men At Work, it's been a while I haven't heard them. You see, the 80s were very good! This one is actually better than any hit song I remember from them! Not sure I heard Men Without Hats before. This is another typical 80s new wave track, a bit quirky. Nice to hear, but it does not have the quality of Men At Work or Gordon Lightfoot, which are my favourites of these. nick_h_nz: Ariana Tikao/Al Fraser, we're immediately in water here. Nau Mai e Kā Hua is as you state: something deep, mysterious and immersive. Very intriguing and captivating, atmospheric and moving in a way (although I have know idea what she's singing about). Don't know what song you want to single out, but I'm sure to listen to the whole album. Listened to the first four tracks now. Adenine's Smirr wants me to put up an umbrella... I love the production quality of this track, but it is in itself a bit too ambient to my liking. I can easily imagine this as film music though. Cristi: Ah, with Fluturi Pe Asfalt we're back in rock territory again, with a slight post-rock tinge and eventually turning a bit more heavy. A nice track, but musically not very original to my ears, although I prefer them over Celelalte Cuvinte, who sound to me like a kind of sophisticated garage rock... Keep them coming these Romanian suggestions; I continue discovering a lot! BaldFriede: Back in the 80s (well, this one is from '79...) Nina Hagen was too radical for me, but this is an artist I have come to appreciate very much. Now, this one is at first leaning a bit too much on her operatic singing (which is something I don't like that much), but when it turns more rock, I'm much more at ease and enjoying this operatic quality. What an artist! |
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Thank you again for the comments Nickie. I went into this one thinking that I would put Patrick Watson up as the nomination because he is probably the lesser known of the three I posted and I feel he needs to be noticed because he has written some excellent music. As far as The Stone Roses, you mentioned the Rolling Stones, and I'm glad you did because their music always reminded me of that era of The Stones. I never said anything because i have never seen anyone else make that comparison until you did. Glad to see I'm not totally crazy.
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Thank you for your comments Kees. As I said to Nickie, the Patrick Watson song is my favorite of the three too. It really touches me deeply, so I just had to find a way to put it up in a poll. As for as The Stone Roses, the track does seem a bit typical, but remember that this band was one of the first to pioneer that sound, so it wasn't quite so typical when it came out. They are noted as one of the bands that instigated the "Mersy sound" in England of the 80s-90s. |
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