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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20451 |
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this would be the one that makes most sense, IMHO
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In terms of sales, the odd one out would be Oldfield (which could have been the big 7th during the 70's) |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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Your "Big Six" that aren't in the "Big Six
Frank Zappa Jimi Hendrix Experience Weather Report Mike Oldfield The Tangent Mostly Autumn Second Tier Six Erik Norlander Pineapple Thief Echolyn Discipline Grey Lady Down Medeski, Martin & Wood |
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43977 |
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I'll jump on the second tier Big Six bandwagon.
![]() First Tier 07. Renaissance 08. Camel 09. Barclay James Harvest 10. Moody Blues 11. Procol Harum 12. Caravan Second Tier 13. Mike Oldfield 14. Rick Wakeman 15. Mostly Autumn 16. Curved Air 17. Nektar 18. IQ |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18176 |
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Hi, WOW ... and such a deserved mention ... the show he did with his wife and their band (The rocket Scientists) still is, for me, the best performance and the most professional of all of them at the SF Progressive Music Festival in 1999. Sadly, their work is not always mentioned and because he is from LA and not from London, he will forever be considered a minor Keith Emerson, when the comparison between the 2 is ridiculous ... to say the least, even though there are many who think there is a link. At the time, KE could not mix all the instruments he wanted to play, and later it became about the mixing and using of all of the instruments "together" and not just for what we consider a "solo" ... in many ways, Eric's work is less about the solo, than it is about its entirety and his ability to make sure that the keyboards ADD to the whole thing, instead of him showing off his skills. I don't see, neither did I feel when I talked to them, that this guy was merely playing out his keyboard tricks and licks he learned in school! One of the few at that, btw! Outstanding player ... who deserves a lot more credit, and it is kinda sad to see that he and his wife (Lana Lane) have not done a bit more in the last 10 to 15 years ... she's not exactly a weak singer, and my only thoughts are that the words she sings need to be evaluated better and create better "poetry", though I imagine that it would change some of her abilities and inflections ... but in their show, she was as good an all the others. One other detail ... the bass playing by Don Schiff ... a massive bass player that knows what he is doing and I think is better than Tony Levin and some of the others in the quartet and group of Stick players ... but I think that Don is more into the completeness of the music and its continuity than he is into the solo style of the others involved ... one of the saddest things in rock music, that the solo style is more important than the music itself ... I don't dislike the Stick Men ... but I would rather listen to Don Schiff and what he adds to the music in general ... which is excellent and a very important part of The Rocket Scientists.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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Ok, why not jump back in here?
Big 6 of Prog Metal: Dream Theater Opeth Devin Townsend Queensryche Tool Animals as Leaders Big 6 more Classic acts: Gentle Giant Frank Zappa Rush Marillion VDGG Mahavishnu Orchestra Just in terms of influence My favorites not mentioned already: Khan / Egg Ash Ra Tempel Unexpect Peter Gabriel solo Mars Volta Pain of Salvation |
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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Marillion
Steven Wilson/ Porcupine Tree Spock's Beard PFM The Flower Kings Dream Theater (Apologies to Camel, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, VDGG and Rush who are just as worthy)
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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Had to think about this for a while:
I put the Jazz/Fusion bands aside because they may have taken up the whole list. Edited by Argo2112 - April 26 2021 at 07:55 |
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1216 |
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Camel
Focus Transatlantic Neal Morse Spock's Beard Flower Kings
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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-Porcupine Tree
-The Pineapple Thief -Riverside -Phideaux -Ayreon -Gazpacho.
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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It was always Big Five when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s and still is in books,mags and many websites. I've only seen Big Six used on prog forums in the last ten years or so.
Anyway here are mine: Mike Oldfield Camel Uriah Heep Wishbone Ash Deep Purple Tangerine Dream |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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I’m intrigued, as I’ve never heard of a Big Five. Who was missed out? I’m assuming it was Jethro Tull, as they’ve always struck me as the “odd one out” in the Big Six. (Which is not to say I don’t like Tull, nor to say I don’t think they are prog. I do like them, and I do think they are.) |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45934 |
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I've only heard of "the big 6" here on the PA forum, a couple of years ago. I thought it was because every genre had a "big 4" (a term the mainstream media used to promote the 4 big names of thrash at some point late 80s). Silly me!
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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Yes, I’ve heard of a Big Four of prog (that excludes Floyd and Tull), and obviously a Big Six, too - but a Big Five is a new one for me, which is why I wonder who is missed out. Big Four is definitely the norm. Almost every genre seems to have a Big Four that people argue over, and I definitely remember reading about the Big Four of prog in several different magazines back in the day. In fact, the first I ever read about the Big Four was in a magazine published probably before I was born, or soon after, that belonged to my uncle. I was staying with him for a couple of weeks, and he knew I was interested in music so dug out all his old magazines from the attic for me to read - and read them I did. But I am absolutely certain it was only the Big Four, because Genesis were the only band I knew from them at the time. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43977 |
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Yes, I think Ian Anderson's Jethro Tull only has one leg to stand on regarding being a member of the Big Six.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21364 |
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I thought we got to a Big 6 because we could never agree on a Big 4 or 5. We could only really agree that Yes & Genesis were definitely in.
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Ian
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13238 |
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I'm not quite sure why Genesis is some kind of slam dunk for whatever BIG #(choose a number). They only played prog for about 10 years and only sold albums once they started playing Motown show tunes.
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I guess it's only YES then!
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Ian
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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As I said somewhere above, though, the first time I ever saw a mention of a Big Four was in a magazine that was probably published circa 1975, with the four being Genesis, KC, Yes and ELP. It probably didn’t use the term Big Four, though it might have. I imagine it was more something along the lines of Four Progressive Rock Giants or some such hyperbole. 🤷🏻♂️ But it was that article that first made me aware (in approx 1990, I think? 🤔) of the bands other than Genesis, who I already knew and liked. |
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Big Five was standard in the UK for years, look it up.
Big 6 is just Big 5 + JT. |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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Tell me how to look it up, and I will. If I Google big 5 prog and then Google big 4 prog, the 4 comes up with earlier hits than 5 (at least on the first two pages, as I looked no further than that). I’m not disputing you. I have no reason to. All I was giving was my anecdotal knowledge of only a big 4 and a big 6. |
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