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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Lady GaGa.  She is an excellent pianist/vocalist and certainly has a flair for dramatic costumes!!  

I'd love to see her reprise "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!" 


I'd not considered LG doing prog but I'm sure she'd make a good job of it, being another artist who is not only extremely creative and skilled as a musician, but also transcends all musical genres.

I think a lot of pop stars could make a good job of prog. Lorde being the first to come to mind (and she would have come to my mind before GaGa, too).


They'd have to know what it is first, wouldn't they? LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Lady GaGa.  She is an excellent pianist/vocalist and certainly has a flair for dramatic costumes!!  

I'd love to see her reprise "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!" 


I'd not considered LG doing prog but I'm sure she'd make a good job of it, being another artist who is not only extremely creative and skilled as a musician, but also transcends all musical genres.

I think a lot of pop stars could make a good job of prog. Lorde being the first to come to mind (and she would have come to my mind before GaGa, too).


They'd have to know what it is first, wouldn't they? LOL

That wouldn’t be a problem, as they’ve both said in interviews about the prog bands they like.... 😄
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Lady GaGa.  She is an excellent pianist/vocalist and certainly has a flair for dramatic costumes!!  

I'd love to see her reprise "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!" 


I'd not considered LG doing prog but I'm sure she'd make a good job of it, being another artist who is not only extremely creative and skilled as a musician, but also transcends all musical genres.

I think a lot of pop stars could make a good job of prog. Lorde being the first to come to mind (and she would have come to my mind before GaGa, too).


They'd have to know what it is first, wouldn't they? LOL

That wouldn’t be a problem, as they’ve both said in interviews about the prog bands they like.... 😄


I've got to see this to believe it. LOL And then probably have a heart attack or something. LOL
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Oh I'm sure LG has a sound knowledge and deep understanding of many musical genres.
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Oh I'm sure LG has a sound knowledge and deep understanding of many musical genres.

you are? how? LOL
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Modern English - their "Ricochet Days" with it's keyboards work and some melodies is not that far from Fish-era Marillion. And the orchestration on some tracks doesn't hurt either (oboe, choir anglais, cello, string quartet). Heavily underrated album by post punk crowd not so keen to such an elaborate stuff and overlooked by prog/neo prog folks, who wouldn't know there is much to like here judging from MA previous albums.  
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Cristi, I know (or at least, assume) you are just being humorous, but I don’t really find it funny. Why should artists like Gaga and Lorde not like prog, or not understand prog, or not be able to compose prog? That seems to be your default assumption, and I’m honestly not sure I understand why.

I almost pulled you up on it after your first retort, but decided to leave it. But you’ve now questioned the idea of these two pop stars three times. If the joke was ever funny, it’s wearing a bit thin.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Cristi, I know (or at least, assume) you are just being humorous, but I don’t really find it funny. Why should artists like Gaga and Lorde not like prog, or not understand prog, or not be able to compose prog? That seems to be your default assumption, and I’m honestly not sure I understand why.

I almost pulled you up on it after your first retort, but decided to leave it. But you’ve now questioned the idea of these two pop stars three times. If the joke was ever funny, it’s wearing a bit thin.


I never implied that they would not understand prog, I guess I implied they do not know what it is. 
Excuse my doubts and lame jokes, I blame the mainstream pop scene, little to nothing for me to enjoy. 
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^Fair enough that you don’t find much to enjoy, but that doesn’t mean that the artists who are making music you don’t enjoy, only listen to pop themselves. Like I said, I figured you were joking, but it’s a joke from a short-sighted view. 

Julia Marcell, who has not really released anything I would call prog previously, released a quite beautiful prog pop album last year. Gaga and Lorde could easily do the same. And I definitely believe all three would be more than capable of putting out a full on prog album.

The Opium Cartel’s album from last year, Valor, definitely reminded me of Lorde’s music at time. I said as much to Jacob Holm-Lupo, and he said that he and his daughter (who sings on one track on the album) are both big fans of Lorde, so he took that as a compliment.
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Not to mention Taylor Swift's Grammy winning cover of Big Big Train's Folklore. Wink
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I'll echo Bowie, Queen, Prince, The Who and the like

I will also say I agree artists like Lorde and Lady Gaga would probably make some valuable prog or prog-esque music if they decided to try
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I think Lana Del Rey might be capable of making some interesting prog if she put her mind to it, given the quality of her album releases so far, all of which I can enjoy if I'm in the right mood.
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Someone mentioned Duran Duran earlier - Their first album had some proggy moments, especially Tel Aviv. I used to include it on mixtapes with prog favorites and it fit right in.
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Someone mentioned Duran Duran earlier - Their first album had some proggy moments, especially Tel Aviv. I used to include it on mixtapes with prog favorites and it fit right in.

Call me Paul, but I’ve always considered Duran Duran to be prog pop. They definitely were influenced many by prog bands (as stated in several interviews over the years), and they were far more accomplished musicians and songwriters than a lot of people give them credit for. The main influences may not be considered truly prog in terms of PA, but they have consistently been given as Roxy Music, Pink Floyd, Queen and Kraftwerk, which is still more prog than a lot of pop groups.

When Duran Duran took a break and split in two, Arcadia provided further evidence of the prog influence and appreciation of Duran Duran. Added to the DD trio of Simon, Nick and Roger, you had guest musicians with fusion and prog backgrounds including David Gilmour, Carlos Alomar, Andy MacKay, Herbie Hancock, David Van Tieghem, and Masami Tsuchiya.

And when Duran Duran got back together, Zappa alumnus Warren Cuccurullo was first a session musician, and then full band member. My top three favourite DD albums are all ones with Cuccurullo onboard. In the vein of Tel Aviv (a great instrumental on the debut album), Cuccurullo adds some great menace to Lake Shore Driving on the Big Thing album.
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Dead Kennedys. 
Hearing their debut album "Fresh fruits for rotting vegetables" I hear nothing of the proverbial three chords punk attitude. There are moments (quite many) when they operate on King Crimson level of musicianship.


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The Beatles...


EDIT: Wait, don't pay attn to me right now, just finished smokin a big bowl of some flower buds or something.

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But honestly, in all reality, The Beatles broke up before the whole prog rock movement had really started, so if they had stayed together then they might have ended up making some prog rock music, i dont know. I mean, "She's So Heavy" is kinda proggy, so i could see them doing it. I think it would have been pretty cool to see The Beatles doing prog rock.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by stegor stegor wrote:

Someone mentioned Duran Duran earlier - Their first album had some proggy moments, especially Tel Aviv. I used to include it on mixtapes with prog favorites and it fit right in.

Call me Paul, but I’ve always considered Duran Duran to be prog pop. They definitely were influenced many by prog bands (as stated in several interviews over the years), and they were far more accomplished musicians and songwriters than a lot of people give them credit for. The main influences may not be considered truly prog in terms of PA, but they have consistently been given as Roxy Music, Pink Floyd, Queen and Kraftwerk, which is still more prog than a lot of pop groups.

When Duran Duran took a break and split in two, Arcadia provided further evidence of the prog influence and appreciation of Duran Duran. Added to the DD trio of Simon, Nick and Roger, you had guest musicians with fusion and prog backgrounds including David Gilmour, Carlos Alomar, Andy MacKay, Herbie Hancock, David Van Tieghem, and Masami Tsuchiya.

And when Duran Duran got back together, Zappa alumnus Warren Cuccurullo was first a session musician, and then full band member. My top three favourite DD albums are all ones with Cuccurullo onboard. In the vein of Tel Aviv (a great instrumental on the debut album), Cuccurullo adds some great menace to Lake Shore Driving on the Big Thing album.
There were a plethora of British pop bands of that era who had the prog influence - as well as Duran let's consider Japan, Tears For Fears, OMD, Thomas Dolby. Indie poppers The Icicle Works were probably the proggiest of the lot, discounting leftfield weirdoes like Stump and Durutti Column who had a variety of non-mainstream influences and tick the boxes for musically adventurous and experimental rather than overtly proglike. And of course The Fall were basically a krautrock band from Prestwich.


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Originally posted by Artik Artik wrote:

Dead Kennedys. 
Hearing their debut album "Fresh fruits for rotting vegetables" I hear nothing of the proverbial three chords punk attitude. There are moments (quite many) when they operate on King Crimson level of musicianship.

I knew those guys, the drummer (Darren Peligro) was very talented, he could play jazz fusion or any style you could come up with. Guitar player (East Bay Ray) was also versatile as well, adept at surf, exotica and more.
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