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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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One could say the same thing about Genesis. Ever listen to their last 5 or 6 albums?
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Artik ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 22 2020 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 446 |
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Oh, it's different :) Genesis were totaly prog, and then totaly not :) Pink Floyd were prog occasionaly, but mostly not totaly :)
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Swinton MCR ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
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The problem is with genre being linked to the band entity amd not being linked to each specific track as would be the correct methodology to determine the true natural genre of each release...
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Swinton MCR ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
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And it would make skipping sh*t tracks a lot easier...🖖
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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Genesis was "totally" prog? For Absent Friends? Time Table? I know What I Like? More Fool Me? Half of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway? Follow You, Follow Me? Totally prog?
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Spacegod87 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 16 2019 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1107 |
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"Half of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway"
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Levitating downwards,
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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Yep. Out of 23 songs on The Lamb, ten songs are 3 minutes or less, and another six are under 5 minutes. Very comparable to Floyd's The Wall in that regard. Short snippets tied together with filler music. I am being facetious (for the most part), but it's nonsense when someone says Genesis is "all prog" and Floyd is only "partially prog", particularly when one of those bands gave up on prog entirely for 5 or 6 albums, and every other album they released had a couple standard rocks tunes and sappy ballads on them. It's a compartmentalization of an altered reality.
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^Depends on your definition of prog. Ravine doesn't sound like much. But having a track of just atmospherics on a double disc narrative concept album that provided time for PG to switch costumes for their live performances is pretty classic prog.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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Stage musicals has been doing that for centuries for costume or scene changes. There is nothing "prog" about it -- in fact it is far more Broadway than prog. They even have words for it in several languages, like "intermezzo", "verwandlungsmusik", "entr'acte" or "incidental music", or for more specific play-within-play moments, divertimento or divertissement, or for quicker transitions "vamping", as in "vamp till cue". |
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Coming up on a year for this thread..13 pages.
I voted yes because they are listed under 'psychedelic space rock' here which of course is one of the genres listed here at PA , but In the old days at college when we listened to their music in 69-75 no one of course thought about that. So what is the most progressive LP or track they ever did that cements their place in this genre? ![]() |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 18890 |
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Good question. For me Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother bridged the gap between psych and prog and maybe even More. Meddle was more space rock. Dark side is more art rock. WYWH and Animals are pure prog though and the wall is art rock. All imo of course.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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ummm... no they are not... calling them a prog band sells them short..
they were far more than a mere 'prog band'. In a way very similar to Tull... they get lumped in with prog bands but really were in genres in themselves.
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![]() ![]() well Magma got its own sub-genre... with its bunches of offshoots and imitators.. Floyd and Tull probably deserve the same. Perhaps the 3 more unique groups in all rock...
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thanks Steve it is long sad tragic story with that.. but I'll save that for a post pandemic beer with you hopefully someday..
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I probably leapt too harshly at that comment. However I would caution against splitting music into art and roots music and lumping in blues as roots music. The blues is as legitimate an art as anything else.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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And Classical and Jazz were already a thing for centuries and decades respectively. But ELP still drew from that well. It's doing those things in the context of rock that made them prog for the time.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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Alice Cooper must be prog then. He was doing the Broadway bits like that years before The Lamb came out. Clear back in 1971 with Killer and 1972 with School's Out to be exact.
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