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Angela Scanlon on a BBC gardening programme, called Your Garden Made Perfect wearing a Rush Signals T-shirt:

Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen
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I was watching "full frontal with Samantha Bee" on ondemand last night and she briefly mentioned Rush. A photo of the band appeared also. I took a picture using my iphone but unfortunately wasn't able to upload it here.








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Watching The Stand (ep6) at the moment and caught some KC. Only a snippet but at least credited:


Also in  Episode 1:



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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Let's just agree to disagree! 

I think we did a few posts back! 😄

I have no problem with you or your views, and I can see where you’re coming from, just as you can see where I am coming from. We’ve both been civil and polite, and we can retreat back to our corners. 🤝

If that were the case you would have stopped arguing with me about it. ;) 


You don’t know me very well! 😄
I continue to argue loooooong after I’ve agreed to disagree! 🤪


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Let's just agree to disagree! 

I think we did a few posts back! 😄

I have no problem with you or your views, and I can see where you’re coming from, just as you can see where I am coming from. We’ve both been civil and polite, and we can retreat back to our corners. 🤝

If that were the case you would have stopped arguing with me about it. ;) 


You don’t know me very well! 😄
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Let's just agree to disagree! 

I think we did a few posts back! 😄

I have no problem with you or your views, and I can see where you’re coming from, just as you can see where I am coming from. We’ve both been civil and polite, and we can retreat back to our corners. 🤝

If that were the case you would have stopped arguing with me about it. ;) 





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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Let's just agree to disagree! 

I think we did a few posts back! 😄

I have no problem with you or your views, and I can see where you’re coming from, just as you can see where I am coming from. We’ve both been civil and polite, and we can retreat back to our corners. 🤝
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Ok, I'm done with this conversation.

Generally speaking the creators of a tv program care whether or not their audience has heard of something or not. And I’m sure if Fripp felt as strongly as you, and had asked for it to be acknowledged, then it would have been. Or perhaps even they were going to acknowledge it, and Fripp asked them not to, because these tv events were for Toyah and not him. We don’t know, but for you to get your nose out of joint for something that clearly didn’t bother the man himself seems odd. It seems to me you’re taking offence where none is intended, and on behalf of someone who himself wasn’t bothered. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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You are missing my point. If you are the ceo the big bad boo boo club it shouldn't matter if no one has  heard of it or not(especially if it was your main bread and butter). You are the president and that should be acknowledged. Who cares if they heard of it or not. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. I understand your point but imo that's no reason not to at least mention the band he's from.

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Yeah, that's totally ridiculous for them not to mention King Crimson. They might not be a household name like Peter Gabriel, David Bowie and Blondie but come on. He's still more famous for playing with KC. Can you imagine if it was Steve Howe and they mentioned him playing with Asia, GTR, Lou Reed, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Queen but not Yes? I'm not sure when that was recorded but these days Yes probably aren't that much more well known than KC (or at least not as much as you might think they would be).

I don’t really think it’s ridiculous at all. For the general masses Toyah Wilcox is the household name. I remember one Christmas with my in-laws, when they were discussing music, and my mother-in-law said she thought Toyah was married to some other musician - and suggested it was one of those more obscure bands my father-in-law listened to (obscure meaning Peter Gabriel, I think, because that is as “far” more mainstream as I can ascertain his musical tastes go). They both looked at me, because everyone knows I love music, ans I had to tell them it was Robert Fripp (blank looks), from King Crimson (blank looks). And he played some of the funky guitar sounds you hear on David Bowie’s “Heroes” and Scary Monsters albums (oh, is that who it is).

To be honest, I’m not sure they knew that Fripp has played on Bowie’s albums, so much as they knew what I meant by the funky guitar sounds. Bottom line, Fripp is definitely Toyah’s wife, and not the other way around, and I wouldn’t expect to see it in any other way - unless it was something prog-specific, where the audience is already familiar with who he is.

That’s my in-laws, but I’m quite sure it would be the same with my own parents. They’d probably recognise Toyah’s name, but not Fripp’s. And they’ve likely never heard of Crimson. I suspect for most people, Fripp, if he exists in their knowledge at all, is known for his association with Toyah and/or Bowie, above all else.


Well, they aren't big music fans then. I can't imagine any person really into music(especially rock)not having at least heard of King Crimson. That would be like not hearing of Frank Zappa (imo).

You’re missing the point entirely. These tv programs on which Toyah and her husband are appearing are not directed at music fans - big or otherwise. Are you being wilfully obtuse, or am I simply not being clear enough.

You stated it was ridiculous for Fripp to be introduced as Toyah’s husband, and for no mention of Crimson to be made. I stated it was not, as the audience is not expected to know who he is, or who Crimson is, Toyah is the celebrity, not Fripp. Why? Simply because most people are not big music fans. And I’m willing to bet there are just as many big music fans who are unaware of who Fripp is, and or/who Crimson are.

I have always been the music fan among all my friends and family. I have always been known for my voracious appetite for music. But I didn’t hear about Crimson for years, and they became known to me only because a tool toured with them. I knew Fripp as someone who played on Bowie’s albums, as I was a Bowie fan. So at one point in my life I was independently aware of both King Crimson and Robert Fripp, and simultaneously unaware of the connection between the two.

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Yeah, that's totally ridiculous for them not to mention King Crimson. They might not be a household name like Peter Gabriel, David Bowie and Blondie but come on. He's still more famous for playing with KC. Can you imagine if it was Steve Howe and they mentioned him playing with Asia, GTR, Lou Reed, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Queen but not Yes? I'm not sure when that was recorded but these days Yes probably aren't that much more well known than KC (or at least not as much as you might think they would be).

I don’t really think it’s ridiculous at all. For the general masses Toyah Wilcox is the household name. I remember one Christmas with my in-laws, when they were discussing music, and my mother-in-law said she thought Toyah was married to some other musician - and suggested it was one of those more obscure bands my father-in-law listened to (obscure meaning Peter Gabriel, I think, because that is as “far” more mainstream as I can ascertain his musical tastes go). They both looked at me, because everyone knows I love music, ans I had to tell them it was Robert Fripp (blank looks), from King Crimson (blank looks). And he played some of the funky guitar sounds you hear on David Bowie’s “Heroes” and Scary Monsters albums (oh, is that who it is).

To be honest, I’m not sure they knew that Fripp has played on Bowie’s albums, so much as they knew what I meant by the funky guitar sounds. Bottom line, Fripp is definitely Toyah’s wife, and not the other way around, and I wouldn’t expect to see it in any other way - unless it was something prog-specific, where the audience is already familiar with who he is.

That’s my in-laws, but I’m quite sure it would be the same with my own parents. They’d probably recognise Toyah’s name, but not Fripp’s. And they’ve likely never heard of Crimson. I suspect for most people, Fripp, if he exists in their knowledge at all, is known for his association with Toyah and/or Bowie, above all else.


Well, they aren't big music fans then. I can't imagine any person really into music(especially rock)not having at least heard of King Crimson. That would be like not hearing of Frank Zappa (imo).
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Frippshows - I've never seen him so animated!  

As to topic, doesn't it seem the big grocery chains have been pandering music-wise to those of a certain age?  Seems logical enough - pander to the paying.  As much as I find myself humming and tapping along, it also makes me a bit irritable to hear Heroes or Roundabout while shopping....I always get that, "I know what you're getting at!" attitude toward it all - pretty nefarious when you think about it, that whole product placement, scents and samples, favorite songs to make it all pleasant, like an etherized march toward the inevitable all while squeezing my wallet dry (don't get me started on 50th anniversary re-re-re-releases)......but I can't help singing along anyway.....or grabbing the latest pressing of Anthem of the Sun!   

Good point about the grocery chains/elevator music!  The other day, I heard Gabriel's "Sledge Hammer" and have been hearing quite a bit of 70s and 80s prog.  I asked someone about it, they said that many stores just use a Spotify play-list....I'd much rather hear "Heroes" etc. than most of the cr*p being recorded these days.
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At least King Crimson got a brief mention on This is Your Life. Smile
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Frippshows - I've never seen him so animated!  

As to topic, doesn't it seem the big grocery chains have been pandering music-wise to those of a certain age?  Seems logical enough - pander to the paying.  As much as I find myself humming and tapping along, it also makes me a bit irritable to hear Heroes or Roundabout while shopping....I always get that, "I know what you're getting at!" attitude toward it all - pretty nefarious when you think about it, that whole product placement, scents and samples, favorite songs to make it all pleasant, like an etherized march toward the inevitable all while squeezing my wallet dry (don't get me started on 50th anniversary re-re-re-releases)......but I can't help singing along anyway.....or grabbing the latest pressing of Anthem of the Sun!   
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Yeah, that's totally ridiculous for them not to mention King Crimson. They might not be a household name like Peter Gabriel, David Bowie and Blondie but come on. He's still more famous for playing with KC. Can you imagine if it was Steve Howe and they mentioned him playing with Asia, GTR, Lou Reed, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Queen but not Yes? I'm not sure when that was recorded but these days Yes probably aren't that much more well known than KC (or at least not as much as you might think they would be).

I don’t really think it’s ridiculous at all. For the general masses Toyah Wilcox is the household name. I remember one Christmas with my in-laws, when they were discussing music, and my mother-in-law said she thought Toyah was married to some other musician - and suggested it was one of those more obscure bands my father-in-law listened to (obscure meaning Peter Gabriel, I think, because that is as “far” more mainstream as I can ascertain his musical tastes go). They both looked at me, because everyone knows I love music, ans I had to tell them it was Robert Fripp (blank looks), from King Crimson (blank looks). And he played some of the funky guitar sounds you hear on David Bowie’s “Heroes” and Scary Monsters albums (oh, is that who it is).

To be honest, I’m not sure they knew that Fripp has played on Bowie’s albums, so much as they knew what I meant by the funky guitar sounds. Bottom line, Fripp is definitely Toyah’s wife, and not the other way around, and I wouldn’t expect to see it in any other way - unless it was something prog-specific, where the audience is already familiar with who he is.

That’s my in-laws, but I’m quite sure it would be the same with my own parents. They’d probably recognise Toyah’s name, but not Fripp’s. And they’ve likely never heard of Crimson. I suspect for most people, Fripp, if he exists in their knowledge at all, is known for his association with Toyah and/or Bowie, above all else.

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Toyah Wilcox with her husband Robert on This is Your Life. Smile
 
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^Yeah, that's totally ridiculous for them not to mention King Crimson. They might not be a household name like Peter Gabriel, David Bowie and Blondie but come on. He's still more famous for playing with KC. Can you imagine if it was Steve Howe and they mentioned him playing with Asia, GTR, Lou Reed, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Queen but not Yes? I'm not sure when that was recorded but these days Yes probably aren't that much more well known than KC (or at least not as much as you might think they would be).

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I once saw Robert Fripp in an unexpected place when he appeared on the All Star Mr & Mrs game show, where he was introduced as the husband of Toyah Wilcox and King Crimson never even got a mention. Confused
 
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