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richardh 
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1. Godbluff
2. Pawn Hearts 3. Do Not Disturb those are the only ones I care about. Not a great VDGG fan , sorry.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 01:20 |
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Godbluff
Pawn Hearts H to HE The Least We Can Do That's all I need TBH.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 02:09 |
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Top 7 update after two more rounds of voting:-
1. Pawn Hearts (75 points) 2. Godbluff (68 points) 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (55 points) 4. H to He, Who Am the Only One (53 points) 5. Still Life (39 points) 6. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (14 points) 7. A Grounding in Numbers (10 points) |
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 02:09 |
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Just 'Pawn Hearts' at number 1!
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 02:42 |
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1. Godbluff
2. Pawn Hearts 3. The Least 4. H to He 5. Still Life 6. World Record 7. Present 1-2 are interchangeable and mood-driven. Pawn is more mysterious, decadent, byzantine, "Crimsonian". Godbluff is more volcanic, ecstatic, mind-bending and always, ALWAYS right on the spot. Same goes for 3, 4, 5. I feel Still Life is the most "even" quality-wise, but also very safe and bright compared to earlier records. H to He peaks very high with Killer and Emperor, but I'm no fan of Pioneers these days (strange because I liked it very much in high school). The Least has maybe the best sustained atmosphere of the lot. So these 5 are generally 4-5 stars albums and together form one of the best primes in prog. No. 6 is World Record. At its best, it rivals Still Life. At its worst, it drags and meanders way too much. A good album nonetheless. The last spot goes to Present because, well, David Jackson. |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 02:53 |
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Top 7 update with Thief's votes added:-
1. Pawn Hearts (83 points) 2. Godbluff (80 points) 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (61 points) 4. H to He, Who Am the Only One (57 points) 5. Still Life (42 points) 6. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (14 points) 7. A Grounding in Numbers (10 points) |
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Spacegod87
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:19 |
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1. The least we can do is wave to each other 2. Pawn Hearts 3. H to He Who AM The only one 4. Still life 5. Godbluff 6. The Aerosol grey machine 7. The quiet zone/The pleasure dome |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:25 |
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Top 7 update with SpaceGod87's votes added:-
1. Pawn Hearts (91 points) 2. Godbluff (83 points) 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (73 points) 4. H to He, Who Am the Only One (63 points) 5. Still Life (46 points) 6. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (15 points) 7. A Grounding in Numbers (10 points) |
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Grubert
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Vital should be included cause it contained several new tracks, not to be found on the previous albums. And for that is a kinda replacement for a 78 studio album, which then was not released due to the break of the band. Actually if you include the wonderful Plague of Sleepwalkers medley, a kinda new song, the double album contained enough material for a new album. And there was the Hammill solo song Nadir's Big Chance. I love Vital. It very much represents the bands sonic assault in concerts, their "no prisoners" attitude towards their songs, that what Hammill once described as "controlled chaos". 1. Pawn Hearts 2. Godbluff 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other 4. Still Life 5. Present 6. Vital 7. The Aerosol Grey Machine The last one was very, very difficult, I could have chosen instead H to He or World Record. And there is the lost album from 1972, the one I compiled from the 5 band songs released on Hammill's solo albums in 1973 and 74. 5 excellent tracks, of which 2 would definitely had made a planned album for late 72, and of which 4 were played live by the band in summer 72 and from 1975 to 1977. This not existing album could rival Pawn Hearts for the # 1 position, and Pawn Hearts is my favourite album of all time. Edited by Grubert - December 29 2020 at 08:28 |
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nick_h_nz
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 07:01 |
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I have to agree about the lost album. Those five tracks are amazing, and Louse is definitely one of my all time favourite PH/VDG songs. If that had been a VDG album, it very definitely would rival Pawn Hearts for the number one position in my list of seven, too. (Also, you raise valid points about Vital. I didn’t include it my list of seven, but now wish I had.) |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: December 29 2020 at 09:45 |
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Top 7 update with Grubert's votes added:-
1. Pawn Hearts (103 points) 2. Godbluff (91 points) 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (79 points) 4. H to He, Who Am the Only One (63 points) 5. Still Life (50 points) 6. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (15 points) 7. A Grounding in Numbers (10 points) |
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Grubert
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Posted: December 30 2020 at 01:57 |
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Btw I think it is important to view Present as an 1 disc album, means the 2nd disc is only a bonus disc for me. It contains improvisations of which I never thought that they really belong to the album. But I'm sure different opinions exist for this ... ;) In that regard I'm also not sure if I really view Alt as a part of their studion album disography. Even if this is a good and enjoyable album, while so far I never cared much for the 2nd disc of Present. And I'm a big fan of the sax in VdGG.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Yes, I think you're right. The Present album would have been much better without the 2nd improvisational bonus disc, which really put me off the album as a whole, and the less I say about the ALT album, the better.
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Grubert
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Ok, but I see no problem in viewing Present as a single disc, the one with the songs, the one with the "compositions". Just do it as I do. And Present is an album which still grows on me. It is my most heard VdGG album after Pawn Hearts in the past 10 or 15 years. And it was only recently (really) that I began really to enjoy the though In Babelsberg, a song which I viewed as boring for mayn years. I even begin to like On the Beach, which I considered for along time as the band's weakest up to that point (if I only could mix out the background singing). But with Every Bloody Emperor and Nutter Alert it contains 2 of the best VdGG tracks, by far the best tracks Hammill did since the mid 80s. The album still needs one more strong song at the end. I wish they had recorded Roncevaux for this album as closing track.
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nick_h_nz
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Posted: December 30 2020 at 02:40 |
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I think the problem with Present (regardless of whether or not you include both discs when you are evaluating it), is the lack of consistency of quality. Even if you consider two of the tracks to be “the best VDGG tracks, by far the best tracks Hammill did since the mid 80s”, there are tracks that are not at all as inspiring. When considering ranking albums, the overall quality always trumps individual gems within, for me. There are likely many bands and artists in my collection for whom my favourite songs likely do not appear on my favourite albums. 🤷🏻♂️
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Grubert
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Posted: December 30 2020 at 02:47 |
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Yes, but as I said the album still gets better for me every year, and I enjoy the whole album, actually always enjoyed it completely alredy then when I did not like the aforementioned In Babelsberg, and especially did not like the last song On the Beach. And having 2 of VdGG's best is at least something. I can't say this of any of the later VdGG albums.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Van der Graaf Generator's Discography & Videography  1969: The Aerosol Grey Machine - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCpCWgcjr6WImrJ1KR4-xeQ 1970: The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBP7gSa4G4wrUWTTlj2W_75 1970: H to He, Who Am the Only One - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDXW5vepShO5dF2126hcOUV 1972: Pawn Hearts - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzD_44Y4-KWyVY9UUPE1eyR5 1976: Still Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA7mBv_pBwS6qqutttXdZE2 1976: World Record - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCzfrki6u7F5DccGmU6G5Gt 1977: The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBvlXxx72XqK7UXnVGu49Mh 2005: Live at Rockpalast - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA7wSRcttb-XD63jGgl-Jue 2007: Live at the Paradiso - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA_Pq3e-DFm2afW1yIXqd44 2008: Trisector - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAHuQS-mM5bh-7Wd7DXoAhR 2011: A Grounding in Numbers - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBGJNDad3BRCxvKiBxAGI-y 2016: Do Not Disturb - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBftm-VB4JPteX-n2yDLD0Z |
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1. Pawn Hearts
2. H to He, Who Am the Only One 3. The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome 4. World Record 5. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other 6. A Grounding in Numbers 7. The Aerosol Grey Machine |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Top 7 update with IPhophesyDisaster's votes added:-
1. Pawn Hearts (115 points) 2. Godbluff (91 points) 3. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (82 points) 4. H to He, Who Am the Only One (71 points) 5. Still Life (50 points) 6. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (21 points) 7. A Grounding in Numbers (12 points) 8. World Record (11 points) Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 08 2021 at 06:30 |
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1. Godbluff 2. H to He, Who Am the Only One (remastered version) 3. Pawn Hearts 4. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other 5. World Record 6. Still Life 7. Do not disturb
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