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Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

In France, be a prog fan is the first sign of senility.

ce n'est pas vrai LOL
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All of them.

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So you don't agree most other genres of music have a time fashion frame but prog is timeless .. its not wham bam thank you mam its a more deeper understanding of a relationship between artist and consumer that is timeless doug ? only classical music can be explained the way prog is for the consumer its more than a fashion statement more about a personal relationship with you and the artist. BTW I`m not a prog snob one of my favorite bands is eagles Tongue

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2020 at 10:17
Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

So you don't agree most other genres of music have a time fashion frame but prog is timeless .. its not wham bam thank you mam its a more deeper understanding of a relationship between artist and consumer that is timeless doug ? only classical music can be explained the way prog is for the consumer its more than a fashion statement more about a personal relationship with you and the artist. BTW I`m not a prog snob one of my favorite bands is eagles Tongue

you do know this poll is a joke. 
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Well...it's still not in the just for fun forum.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Crimson Mellotron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2020 at 12:34
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

So you don't agree most other genres of music have a time fashion frame but prog is timeless .. its not wham bam thank you mam its a more deeper understanding of a relationship between artist and consumer that is timeless doug ? only classical music can be explained the way prog is for the consumer its more than a fashion statement more about a personal relationship with you and the artist. BTW I`m not a prog snob one of my favorite bands is eagles Tongue

you do know this poll is a joke. 

A joke??? Such a serious poll... I am offended strongly, Cristi.LOL
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It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)

most people don't even know what it is. LOL
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Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

Each human is at a slightly different level of consciousness , we all question the universe from a slightly different perspective based on experience and what we are taught , prog fans seem to open up their mind to an infinite field of possibility and aren't limited at all by other people's opinions, the short answer is they tend to have a higher level of awareness and follow their gut instincts rather than what they are told to understand by the big corporate machine. Prog fans will dig deep even go into who produced the album who mixed it what equipment the artist is using, no other genre of fans does this which is why... we are smarter and often considered 'snobs'. Feel free to disagree with me but I've pondered this question for decades and I believe I`m on to something Tongue

My counter to that is the kind of people that are prog fans but are ALSO close-minded. Plenty of proggers listen to prog exclusively and crap on other genres, not realizing that they've traded a following of the "corporate machine" for a following of "superior" music. Everyone thinks they are following their instincts. But no one knows when they're subconsciously being influenced, whether it's by an outside force, or by their own pretensions/insecurities. I think the proportion of prog fans or other eclectic genre fans that scoff at commercial music without a second thought is about the same as the proportion of fans of commercial genres and sub-genres who would scoff at prog or generally non-commercial music. I think many tend to both vastly underestimate how many non-prog listeners are still adventurous, and overestimate their own intellect. 

A genre you enjoy isn't necessarily indicative of how open- or close-minded you are towards art forms.
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I saw Pink Floyd in concert and Toto in the same month Toto blew Pink Floyd away in their musicality ...and Toto aren't on this site. Smile
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I would add a few more:
 - Music strikes a more essential chord within us than average people
 - We invest much more energy into our musical listening
 - As failed musicians, we all appreciate those that can do astonishing things with their instruments more than we can
 - Because we lead such monastic lives (including possessing exceptionally high degrees of ineptitude in interpersonal relationships), we have nothing better to do
 - Because life imitates art and all prog rockers are arrogant, self-possessed snobs


I can't help but wonder how someone like you can write a post like this with so much insight into the personality of a prog snob and yet still consider yourself socially inept. With this level self awareness, I am sure you are way more socially capable than you give yourself credit for. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:15
it's hilarious to watch a few people taking this thread so seriously. LOL
sorry... Embarrassed LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:16
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)


most people don't even know what it is. LOL
Most people I know are musicians or conented to the music industry so they know what prog is. And many do laugh at it as dinosaur rock.

Edited by SteveG - November 16 2020 at 07:16
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

most people don't even know what it is. LOL

Once they talk to me they bloody will lol. 
I won't shut up about it. 
Hey, I wonder why people don't want to talk to me irl? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:24
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)


most people don't even know what it is. LOL
Most people I know are musicians or conented to the music industry so they know what prog is. And many do laugh at it as dinosaur rock.

good for you I guess... Ouch
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Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

most people don't even know what it is. LOL

Once they talk to me they bloody will lol. 
I won't shut up about it. 
Hey, I wonder why people don't want to talk to me irl? LOL

I've never imposed my tastes and point of views on music on anyone. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:42
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)


most people don't even know what it is. LOL
Most people I know are musicians or conented to the music industry so they know what prog is. And many do laugh at it as dinosaur rock.


good for you I guess... Ouch
we can't all live in a vacuum.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:45
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

It's a defense because so many people laugh at prog. ;)


most people don't even know what it is. LOL
Most people I know are musicians or conented to the music industry so they know what prog is. And many do laugh at it as dinosaur rock.


good for you I guess... Ouch
we can't all live in a vacuum.

ah, crap!!!!!!!! LOL

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Personally I listen to many different types of music, prog included. There is adventurous music within many genres, but also a lot of music that is not. F.e. I don't think highly of all prog either.

But the thing is, some people are so burried in one type of music that they judge everything else based on that kind of music. F.e. I have heard jazzheads crap on rock music because they don't improvise as much. I also remember a Danish article about the revival of folk music, and the comment section was full of derogatory comments about "playing on combs and washboards" and so on. Obviously, those people didn't know that there is a lot of very sophisticated folk music out there. Or else, they didn't want to know because they felt the need to defend their own very narrow taste as superior. And if you don't have the agruments, what's more easy than to be derogatory and sardonic..


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never imposed my tastes and point of views on music on anyone.
Not only will I impose, but I will force them to sit in a white room and listen to free form jazz for 12 hours.

Also, if someone doesn't like Gentle Giant, i'll beat them to within an inch of their life and burn their Grandmother's house down.

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