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1. Rush
2. Genesis
3. Pink Floyd
4. CAN
5. King Crimson
6. Yes
7. Marillion
8. Porcupine Tree
9. Jethro Tull
10. Soft Machine 
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I can’t do it. Every time I make a list, there are groups that become left out from various subgenres.

I love everything from soft or upbeat Alan Parsons Project music to technical metal like Watchtower and earlier Iron Maiden to whacky music like Primus to straight up Prog like Yes, ELP, Genesis, KC, JT, PF, Kansas, Rush to even more album oriented rock like Styx and Journey to some religious oriented stuff like old King’s X, Phil Keaggy, and Barnabas to New Wave oriented like Saga and Talk Talk to jazz / fusion like Allan Holdsworth and Santana to the moodier music of Kate Bush, Tori Amos, and Loreena McKennett and over to the more classically inspired Sky and Al Dimeola and around the corner to the quirky Kraftwerk and Gary Numan.

I have no idea how to sort out this mess, let alone rank it or rate it. All of it ... and much much more ... floats my boat. L
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

I can’t do it. Every time I make a list, there are groups that become left out from various subgenres.

I love everything from soft or upbeat Alan Parsons Project music to technical metal like Watchtower and earlier Iron Maiden to whacky music like Primus to straight up Prog like Yes, ELP, Genesis, KC, JT, PF, Kansas, Rush to even more album oriented rock like Styx and Journey to some religious oriented stuff like old King’s X, Phil Keaggy, and Barnabas to New Wave oriented like Saga and Talk Talk to jazz / fusion like Allan Holdsworth and Santana to the moodier music of Kate Bush, Tori Amos, and Loreena McKennett and over to the more classically inspired Sky and Al Dimeola and around the corner to the quirky Kraftwerk and Gary Numan.

I have no idea how to sort out this mess, let alone rank it or rate it. All of it ... and much much more ... floats my boat. L
Maybe you'd find it easier to choose a Top 10 albums list  in my more specific  Symphonic Prog, Crossover Prog and Prog Folk polls. Smile
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Personally I don't think you can an all time top 10 progressive rock band list that doesn't include Emerson, Lake and Palmer, even if you have to squeeze them into 10th place. Kansas and The Flower Kings are up there but there are so many great bands, you can only list 10.
 
I could have made it a Top 20, but that would have given me a real headache when it came time to add up the points. Emerson, Lake & Palmer are doing very well so far in sixth place after getting off to a slow start. The same goes for Rush, who were still behind Henry Cow after thirteen rounds of voting but are now right up there in fifth place. Smile
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Top 10 update with Catcher 10's votes added:-
 
1. Genesis (449 points)
2. Yes (420 points)
3. Pink Floyd (406 points)
4. King Crimson (380 points)
5. Rush (223 points)
6. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (151 points)
7. Jethro Tull (124 points)
8. Gentle Giant (91 points)
9. Porcupine Tree (72 points)
10. Can (66 points)
 
11. Marillion (65 points)
12. Renaissance (62 points)
13. Cardiacs (60 points)
13. IQ (60 points)
13. Soft Machine (60 points)
16. Van der Graaf Generator (57 points)
16. Magma (57 points)
18. Camel (55 points)
18. Spock's Beard (55 points)
20. Henry Cow (46 points)
 
It's a new entry in the Top 10 for CAN.
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Interesting result so far. There is a lot of agreement on the top four (Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson). Then a huge gap separates the next four (Rush, ELP, Tull, Gentle Giant). Then there's all the rest that have very few points separating them.

I wonder how the results would change if you used a linear scale (10 points down to 1)?
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Interesting result so far. There is a lot of agreement on the top four (Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson). Then a huge gap separates the next four (Rush, ELP, Tull, Gentle Giant). Then there's all the rest that have very few points separating them.

I wonder how the results would change if you used a linear scale (10 points down to 1)?
Yes, I think it was fairly easy to predict who the eventual Top 5 were going to be, and if the points were on a linear scale, the bands would probably still be listed in roughly the same order, although they'd obviously have a lot loss points between them. Smile
 
 
The Top 10 points system based on the number 60 has a nice mathematical symmetry to it:-
 
2 x 30 = 60
3 x 20 = 60
4 x 15 = 60
5 x 12 = 60
6 x 10 = 60
10 x 6 = 60
12 x 5 = 60
15 x 4 = 60
20 x 3 = 60
30 x 2 = 60


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

 
You may already know this, but the reason I chose that particular points system for a Top 10 is because all of the numbers divide neatly into sixty. Smile

And why is that important?
I mentioned in another thread that a Top 10 points system based on the number 60 has a nice mathematical symmetry to it:-
 
2 x 30 = 60
3 x 20 = 60
4 x 15 = 60
5 x 12 = 60
6 x 10 = 60
10 x 6 = 60
12 x 5 = 60
15 x 4 = 60
20 x 3 = 60
30 x 2 = 60


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That's an interesting property, but it has a big glitch in it between 5th and 6th place -- a big jump of 4 points, when the adjacent steps are only 1 or 2 points. If you change the point values from 10->9 and 6->7 it helps get rid of the big penalty place on the 6th place choice.
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

That's an interesting property, but it has a big glitch in it between 5th and 6th place -- a big jump of 4 points, when the adjacent steps are only 1 or 2 points. If you change the point values from 10->9 and 6->7 it helps get rid of the big penalty place on the 6th place choice.
 
Yes, it's true there's a big difference in points between fifth and sixth place, but my way of thinking is it gives more importance to which bands you place in your Top 5. Smile
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The top ten is pretty close to what I would expect. Perhaps the only surprises are that Camel and VDGG are not higher and that ELP are not a bit lower down, Massive fan myself but I don't get that positive vibe coming through generally when they are discussed on the board.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The top ten is pretty close to what I would expect. Perhaps the only surprises are that Camel and VDGG are not higher and that ELP are not a bit lower down, Massive fan myself but I don't get that positive vibe coming through generally when they are discussed on the board.
 
The biggest surprise for me was seeing Henry Cow way ahead of Rush after thirteen rounds of voting, even though I'm not a big fan of Rush. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The top ten is pretty close to what I would expect. Perhaps the only surprises are that Camel and VDGG are not higher and that ELP are not a bit lower down, Massive fan myself but I don't get that positive vibe coming through generally when they are discussed on the board.
 
The biggest surprise for me was seeing Henry Cow way ahead of Rush after thirteen rounds of voting, even though I'm not a big fan of Rush. Smile

I'm surprised HC has any points.......Soft Machine is better
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1) Van der Graaf Generator
2) King Crimson
3) Genesis
4) Jethro Tull
5) Emerson, Lake & Palmer
6) Yes
7) Gong
8) Camel
9) Soft Machine
10) Family
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

I can’t do it. Every time I make a list, there are groups that become left out from various subgenres.
I kind of agree with you, but hey, the threads like this are for fun.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

I can’t do it. Every time I make a list, there are groups that become left out from various subgenres.
I kind of agree with you, but hey, the threads like this are for fun.

I have the same problem. 
I know these threads are for fun, but I still can't do it. LOL
 


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The top ten is pretty close to what I would expect. Perhaps the only surprises are that Camel and VDGG are not higher and that ELP are not a bit lower down, Massive fan myself but I don't get that positive vibe coming through generally when they are discussed on the board.
 
The biggest surprise for me was seeing Henry Cow way ahead of Rush after thirteen rounds of voting, even though I'm not a big fan of Rush. Smile

I'm surprised HC has any points.......Soft Machine is better

Subjectively? I assumed it was a matter of personal preference. HC are one of my favorite bands ahead of SM.
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1.VdGG
2. King Crimson
3. Soft Machine
4. Procol Harum
5. Pentangle
6. Velvet Underground
7. Beatles
8. Genesis (Gabriel phase,  the rest is boring)
9. Pink Floyd
10. Family
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

1) Van der Graaf Generator

Get in. 

Originally posted by Grubert Grubert wrote:

1.VdGG

And again. Smile
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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

1) Van der Graaf Generator

Get in. 

Originally posted by Grubert Grubert wrote:

1.VdGG

And again. Smile
 
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