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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2020 at 12:43
As a kid:
Jethro is funny, Zeppelin = lots of love songs, bleh!

As a 13-year old:
Led Zeppelin is the best fricking thing under the sun, period

High school:
Led Zeppelin still rules, but I need prog again

Graduate:
Jethro Tull's catalogue is so deep it's mindblowing

Now:
LZ for summer, JT for winter, other seasons are tossup.

Going to vote for Led Zeppelin as they fell behind too much for my taste.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2020 at 09:59
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

I was in a chatroom recently and somebody said Led Zeppelin were the best band ever while others agreed, so I thought I'd put them up against a band barely in the big 5 top prog bands (not that I agree with that system either) and find out. I chose Jethro Tull because I believe King Crimson, PinK Floyd, Yes or Genesis would have won too easily especially on this progressive website Tongue  


Hi,

When it comes to the concert circuit, very few bands can you count in your fingers that stand up to Led Zeppelin in their first 3 years ... their shows and bootlegs were historic and I think it was something like in LA ... 3 shows ... sold out in 20 minutes to give you an idea ... JT was fine, but never had that kind or attention.

I like JT, some, but I get really tired of it by the end of the albums, with 2 exceptions. In general, within a "progressive" ideal, JT would be better, however, LZ did not get the chance to continue and give us something ... Bonzo departing us, left a void in the group mechanics ... that was really difficult to duplicate and maintain.

All in all, for this poll's purposes, LZ should be the choice but in this place some folks think that JT is one of the gods, and it ain't. AND, JT's appreciation, specially in a "progressive" mold did not start until much later ... even though they had the material for it ... but at the time, no one thought of it as much ... my girlfriend, btw, would rather see LZ because it was sexy, and JT was boring!

JT is a "boys" band for my taste!


I was going with the gut when I voted for Zepp, but I guess you have just described why I didn't vote for Tull... getting tired of the album by the end of it. However, the way I listen to Tull (and most bands), even though you may disagree because of how you like to respect what the bands where trying to do, is listening to a list of my very favourite songs, and in the case of Tull, they are mostly live songs, which to me sound much more energetic and powerful than the studio originals.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Enchant X Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2020 at 06:04
Well I've been a Tull fan for 40 years they were one of the first prog bands I ever got right into so I voted for Tull ... no disrespect to Led Zeppelin who are a legendary band. Smile 
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Love them both but I think I'll go for LZ.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Oddball Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2020 at 03:35
I remember sl*g.ing off Tull to a flatmate whilst at Uni, and he threw a tin of baked beans at me. Could've done serious damage (he was a massive fan). I can see why he was such a devotee now that I'm older and less tribal about these things, but Led Zep have been with me for life, one of the few bands that I've listened to on and off for 40+ years. I now realise that Physical Graffiti and LZ3 are better albums than 4, but they are still a great band. And still a class above Tull.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2020 at 00:47
Led Zeppelin by a long shot. The influence of Zeppelin is off the charts, JTull is never in those discussions and doubt ever will be. We all love Tull, heck Aqualung is a masterpiece and I don't think Zeppelin recorded a masterpiece, IV comes close.
But how Led Zeppelin hit the world of music and changed how instruments were played and rock music sounds today is pretty much due to the influence of Led Zeppelin....Hammer of the Gods.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2020 at 22:06
like them about the same--but Zep is a more important band 
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Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
I think you are right Wink

Oy--   it's called character, soul, austerity.   Perfect playing is incredibly dull.   Both Page & Plant understood that and worked hard to preserve the ragged, imperfect humanity that was so crucial to their music.   Maybe someday you'll appreciate that.  

Page overrated?   Of course he was, along with Bonham, Plant and Jones--   not to mention Tony Iommi, Jeff Beck, Hendrix, Johnny Winter . . . 

For crying out loud.




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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

(the connection is that Emerson bought the Yamaha GX1 that JPJ used on that album after his own was destroyed in a freak accident)

Didn't know that, good little nugget of rock history.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:30
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.

Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained.   It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.



 

I like it as well but then I like ELP so my opinion is probably invalid LOL

(and the connection is that Emerson bought the Yamaha GX1 that JPJ used on that album after his own was destroyed in a freak accident)
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Zeps sound American to me.  All the best bands were English and European
 

They sound American because, like all British rock bands born of the '60s, they learned everything they knew from Elvis, Howlin' Wolf, Little Richard, Otis Redding, and Jimi Hendrix.





Edited by Atavachron - May 26 2020 at 16:31
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Zeps sound American to me. All the best bands were English and European
 

all the way from ... Wolverhampton.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:13
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Oh there's a huge majority who think that--  they also hate Presence.   Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).

Well, my favorites are Physical Graffiti and ZoSo, both were a huge deal in my early teens. And I do like the acoustic aspects of III. The rest I really don't listen to much anymore.
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Oh there's a huge majority who think that--  they also hate Presence.   Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).




Edited by Atavachron - May 26 2020 at 15:45
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.

Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained.   It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.
Yeah...no. Sorry David, can't stand Up the Down Escalator. The worst Zeppelin album by about 10 light years. And having read other poster's comments through the years, there's a large majority who think Led Zep fell off a cliff on that one.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.

Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained.   It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.





Edited by Atavachron - May 26 2020 at 15:09
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hard vote...  the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output.. 

problem is...  JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...

so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up....

Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them Dead

If Bonham does not die then I don't think they hang it up at all. I'm not sure what 80s Led Zeppelin would have sounded like. 

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Can't decide so I'm going with Zull.
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
I agree. He was quite good in the sixties, but when started use heroine become really messy (you can hear that in "The Song Remains the Same"-live).
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