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There was a time I probably would have said Zep, but in subsequent decades that has turned over to Tull quite decidedly.  I can't think the last time I listened to Zep on purpose.  That said, they did have some great songs
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I agree that JT barely fits in the Big 5 or Big 6 list of English prog. But for me it still beats Zep by a long shot
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hard vote...  the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output.. 

problem is...  JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...

so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up....

Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them Dead
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People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
I think you are right Wink
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
I won’t shoot - he’s very sloppy, sloppier than Steve Howe, though what they play is pretty challenging stuff that nobody could replicate with the right nuances.....

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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.

a little bit
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.


a little bit


There are better guitarists I'm sure, but it's not all down to how technical and precise they are. Like Zappa, he had a style and sound that was very distinctive and worked brilliantly with the music, eve if there were a few rough edges. The same could be said of Alex Lifeson - distinctive style/sound etc - who I believe IS far batter 'technically' than Page, but then Lifeson was in Rush who weren't in the same sales league as Zep..

I once heard it said that Eddie Van Halen was once asked what it's like being the best guitarist in the world, to which he allegedly replied something like "I don't know. You'd have to ask Alex Lifeson"
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
 
May be true but he has come up with riffs and solos that most guitarists would give their right arm for.
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Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hard vote...  the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output.. 

problem is...  JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...

so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up....

Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them Dead

If Bonham does not die then I don't think they hang it up at all. I'm not sure what 80s Led Zeppelin would have sounded like. 
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Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

I was in a chatroom recently and somebody said Led Zeppelin were the best band ever while others agreed, so I thought I'd put them up against a band barely in the big 5 top prog bands (not that I agree with that system either) and find out. I chose Jethro Tull because I believe King Crimson, PinK Floyd, Yes or Genesis would have won too easily especially on this progressive website Tongue  

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When it comes to the concert circuit, very few bands can you count in your fingers that stand up to Led Zeppelin in their first 3 years ... their shows and bootlegs were historic and I think it was something like in LA ... 3 shows ... sold out in 20 minutes to give you an idea ... JT was fine, but never had that kind or attention.

I like JT, some, but I get really tired of it by the end of the albums, with 2 exceptions. In general, within a "progressive" ideal, JT would be better, however, LZ did not get the chance to continue and give us something ... Bonzo departing us, left a void in the group mechanics ... that was really difficult to duplicate and maintain.

All in all, for this poll's purposes, LZ should be the choice but in this place some folks think that JT is one of the gods, and it ain't. AND, JT's appreciation, specially in a "progressive" mold did not start until much later ... even though they had the material for it ... but at the time, no one thought of it as much ... my girlfriend, btw, would rather see LZ because it was sexy, and JT was boring!

JT is a "boys" band for my taste!
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I have voted for LZ for the simple reason that they are the best live act I have seen. However I have a liking for heavier hard rock bands.
However if bonham had not died I think LZ in the 80s would have had a very different sound with keyboards featuring much more in their music.
See carouselambra from the in through the out door album for how they were heading.
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
I agree. He was quite good in the sixties, but when started use heroine become really messy (you can hear that in "The Song Remains the Same"-live).
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Can't decide so I'm going with Zull.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hard vote...  the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output.. 

problem is...  JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...

so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up....

Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them Dead

If Bonham does not die then I don't think they hang it up at all. I'm not sure what 80s Led Zeppelin would have sounded like. 

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.

Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained.   It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.





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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.

Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained.   It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.
Yeah...no. Sorry David, can't stand Up the Down Escalator. The worst Zeppelin album by about 10 light years. And having read other poster's comments through the years, there's a large majority who think Led Zep fell off a cliff on that one.
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Oh there's a huge majority who think that--  they also hate Presence.   Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).




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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Oh there's a huge majority who think that--  they also hate Presence.   Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).

Well, my favorites are Physical Graffiti and ZoSo, both were a huge deal in my early teens. And I do like the acoustic aspects of III. The rest I really don't listen to much anymore.
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