Black Sabbath, the unsung prog trailblazers

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   Agreed (except for moving them; doesn't matter as long as they're here).   Here's a quote from the notes in Warhorse's Red Sea from Philip Walker that describes part of what you're getting at :

"...Heavy
Rock as a style grew out of Progressive Rock sometime in the early 1970s. The trend setters were Deep Purple and Black
Sabbath" .

So the perspective way back in 1972 was that heavy rock/metal was born of a larger progressive movement that included all new forms of rock, whether hard, soft, modern, or retro.

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Atavachron Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268	Post Options Post Reply Quote Atavachron Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 16 2020 at 14:31
	Agreed (except for moving them; doesn't matter as long as they're here). Here's a quote from the notes in Warhorse's Red Sea from Philip Walker that describes part of what you're getting at : "...Heavy Rock as a style grew out of Progressive Rock sometime in the early 1970s. The trend setters were Deep Purple and Black Sabbath" . So the perspective way back in 1972 was that heavy rock/metal was born of a larger progressive movement that included all new forms of rock, whether hard, soft, modern, or retro.
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dougmcauliffe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895	Post Options Post Reply Quote dougmcauliffe Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: February 16 2020 at 13:35
	I've been listening to Black Sabbath a lot recently and they're often credited for being the first real metal band and I cant argue with that. But I feel that the material on their early albums is extremely progressive. The songs generally have several distinct sections with some really interesting unconventional non-straightforward uses of their instruments. I believe what they were doing was really unlike most music at the time. What they did was the definition of progressive. On their debut they had these 10 minute suites of music with various changes throughout. Look at songs like War Pigs and Planet Caravan, Wheels of Confusion... Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and more. Are they a progressive rock band? Well, they're probably heavy metal before that label. But I think they deserve a spot in the heavy prog or arguably even the progressive metal sub genre rather than prog related. No matter what they are, Sabbath is awesome!
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