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 Posted: February 08 2020 at 04:02 |
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This Kansas backlash seems a bit strange to me. I saw them play live around 2002 and they were absolutely brilliant.
I will still happily give the debut a spin if only just for Death of Mother Nature Suite if nothing else. Song For America is also a classic and highly original prog track. Masque is a decent album and worth a bit of attention not to mention great tracks such as The Spider and Magnum Opus. Yeah they did go a bit AOR from about 1978 onwards but they didn't suddenly turn into Foreigner or Boston overnight
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This sums up exactly my feelings on Kansas. Loved their first three albums and their most recent, others ventured into AOR but almost always had some good stuff.
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Posted: February 08 2020 at 02:22 |
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Styx and Kansas cd's I have will just gather dust...both bands I will not be revisiting due to better options in the other myriad cds...I will have to build some more shelves soon... |
sure thing whatever makes you happy, I suppose that's why the poll creator included a Neither option 
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Posted: February 08 2020 at 01:50 |
This Kansas backlash seems a bit strange to me. I saw them play live around 2002 and they were absolutely brilliant.
I will still happily give the debut a spin if only just for Death of Mother Nature Suite if nothing else. Song For America is also a classic and highly original prog track. Masque is a decent album and worth a bit of attention not to mention great tracks such as The Spider and Magnum Opus. Yeah they did go a bit AOR from about 1978 onwards but they didn't suddenly turn into Foreigner or Boston overnight
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Posted: February 08 2020 at 01:40 |
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Styx and Kansas cd's I have will just gather dust...both bands I will not be revisiting due to better options in the other myriad cds...I will have to build some more shelves soon...
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Posted: February 08 2020 at 01:34 |
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Dust In The Wind is probably the deepest song ever written to the point that it actually sounds ironic. However Kerry Livgren was very serious about it . It could be paired with ELP's Lucky man both on general theme (the naive view that material wealth is totally unimportant in the grand scheme of things) but also they were songs that were included on their respective albums almost as an afterthought because there was a space to fill.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 21:00 |
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THe most prog rock oriented Styx track I know is "castle walls." After that maybe "Suite madam Blue."
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 20:21 |
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^ a day is really cool, reminds me of take a pebble and sailors tale. But it’s the most blatantly progressive thing Styx’s has ever done.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 17:32 |
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gr8dane wrote:
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Ok but we all known Kansas’s debut is their best. Those last two tracks kick ass |
Do we ? is it ? That's funny,I just checked a poll we had about the first 5 Kansas albums, and the first came in forth. |
Opinions change, SFA has their strongest track in the title track, but side two has a couple so so songs |
SFA is indeed a good one.Styx had their own song for America,in Suite Made Blue,which is probably one Styx' best songs. You heard it ?? |
Yeah I don’t think it’s that good. I think some of their best tracks are crystal ball, this old man, pieces of eight, castle walls, queen of spades, red storm and a day. |
Fair enough.The ones you mention are great tracks, and you did mention A Day,which happens to be my favourite Styx track. 
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 16:27 |
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^ Not a deep song, despite it's title, but I do love that fiddle! |
Dust in the wind not deep? Seriously? You can't get much deeper than DitW. |
Mmm...we live..we die. Nope, not deep to me. Perhaps you're confusing deep with depressing. |
Well, in that case nothing is deep. It's not about the subject so much but the philosophical way they go about it. Maybe compared to other prog it's not that deep but for a pop song(or a song that was a hit anyway) it definitely is(imo).
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 16:08 |
gr8dane wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
Ok but we all known Kansas’s debut is their best. Those last two tracks kick ass |
Do we ? is it ? That's funny,I just checked a poll we had about the first 5 Kansas albums, and the first came in forth. |
Opinions change, SFA has their strongest track in the title track, but side two has a couple so so songs |
SFA is indeed a good one.Styx had their own song for America,in Suite Made Blue,which is probably one Styx' best songs. You heard it ?? |
Yeah I don’t think it’s that good. I think some of their best tracks are crystal ball, this old man, pieces of eight, castle walls, queen of spades, red storm and a day.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 15:00 |
dougmcauliffe wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
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Ok but we all known Kansas’s debut is their best. Those last two tracks kick ass |
Do we ? is it ? That's funny,I just checked a poll we had about the first 5 Kansas albums, and the first came in forth. |
Opinions change, SFA has their strongest track in the title track, but side two has a couple so so songs |
SFA is indeed a good one.Styx had their own song for America,in Suite Made Blue,which is probably one Styx' best songs. You heard it ??
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 14:19 |
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^ Not a deep song, despite it's title, but I do love that fiddle! |
Dust in the wind not deep? Seriously? You can't get much deeper than DitW. |
Mmm...we live..we die. Nope, not deep to me. Perhaps you're confusing deep with depressing.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 14:14 |
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Kansas.......not close for me, though Styx did write one or two decent songs.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 14:12 |
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^ Not a deep song, despite it's title, but I do love that fiddle! |
Dust in the wind not deep? Seriously? You can't get much deeper than DitW.
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 11:58 |
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I will also always say, pieces of eight is a great, proggy album
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 07:18 |
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dougmcauliffe wrote:
Ok but we all known Kansas’s debut is their best. Those last two tracks kick ass |
Do we ? is it ? That's funny,I just checked a poll we had about the first 5 Kansas albums, and the first came in forth. |
Opinions change, SFA has their strongest track in the title track, but side two has a couple so so songs
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 07:14 |
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^ Not a deep song, despite it's title, but I do love that fiddle!
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 07:10 |
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Hmm...Dust In The Wind vs. Babe? Which one. Which one.. |
Dust in the wind is (still) awesome, Babe has never been.
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Hmm...Dust In The Wind vs. Babe? Which one. Which one..
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Posted: February 07 2020 at 07:07 |
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This would have been funny of they didn't fit into the AOR mold too.
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