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    Posted: December 03 2019 at 20:59
Not sure I’ll describe this quite right but hoping you might be able to help me.

I recently heard someone mention a word, I think it was Nordic, maybe Swedish in origin. It was described to me if I recall correctly as a playing technique that first emerged with a Swedish prog rock group in the 80s, the technique was a unique way of picking, intentionally hard so as to make the sound go sharp. It’s driving me crazy that I can’t remember the term. Does anyone know what I’m talking about and what it’s called?

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Djent?

Djent was later than the 80's though. The band Meshuggah(who are Swedish)pioneered the sound. However, the term djent isn't swedish. It comes from the sound it makes(imagine a little kid making this sound when trying to imitate a fast and heavy guitar). 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote YngDream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2019 at 21:14
Thanks for the quick reply. I wish that were it, it loosely fits the profile but I think you’re right on both counts — the word I’m trying to remember is different (probably Swedish or Norwegian or something) and Djent is the sound... and I think it was earlier. For some reason I feel like the word starts with a T or a P and that the band that pioneered it might have started with an L (less sure about that). I think it was similarly short, 4 or 5 letters. You’re definitely in the right neighborhood.

I feel like a dolt to ask this with these vague and possibly wrong descriptions. Appreciate the help and attempt very much! Hopefully the coin will drop for me on this eventually.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2019 at 21:25
The first term I think of is 'gonk ' which is what we called that slapping sound made by the thumb when playing bass guitar... at least we called it that in California in the 90s.

But in reading your description you seem to be talking about a different technique.



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Fun term but unfortunately not it. Still racking the brain and still not surfacing.
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The only technique that comes to mind in relation to nordic guitarists is tremelo strumming but that's used predominantly in metal not prog and doesn't have a nordic name.

Your description almost sounds like a pinched harmonic, the sound produced is a very distinctive squeal favoured by Zakk Wylde (on practically every goddam song), but again, that doesn't have a nordic sounding name.
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^ What I call a "stuck-pig" harmonic because of the sound it makes.   Many metal guitarists use it, Viv Campbell, Eddie VH, Randy Rhoads, among many others.


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I like the “stuck pig” terminology.

Ok, after some further wracking of the brain... my memory was way off, more in the metal space and definitely not 80s. I think whoever planted the idea with me on this originally may have trolled me.

Disappointingly the word I was trying to remember is “thall”.

Appreciate the help and pardon the odd journey on this topic. Have enjoyed hearing the thoughts along the way.
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or maybe 'thrall' . . . ;)

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