Petition for Radiohead to be in archives

Actually the thing is Bebe.. if you read enough around here you'll find that most guys like to stay inside their box... it makes them comfortable, so they are constantly trying to fit everything into that box with them...

Radiohead are not prog... and a few (somewhat sound prog) moments don't make them prog.  I like Radiohead.. actually Street Spirit from "The Bends" is playing here right now... Radiohead did not start out as a prog band... whereas Styx did.  Even tho Styx quickly moved out of the genre doesn't change the fact that thats how they began.

Now there's a new band called Intense... they sound prog.. does anyone know anything about them??

Radiohead is progressive, indeed, but so are many bands who choose to innovate and transcend the boundaries of music. Progressive rock, however, is a specific genre with its own unique approach to music. Bands such as Genesis, ELP, and Pink Floyd created a style by integrating classical-sounding suites into more modern rock/jazz formats using new electronic technology. Radiohead, on the other hand, belongs to the electronica movement, which creates its style by using unconventional electonic instruments to modify and expand current alternative pop/rock formats. These approaches yield two very different sounds. Radiohead has progressed significantly, but it is going a different direction than Progressive Rock is.

Just because a band mkaes a concept album, that doesn't make them prog. If the concept album point were true, then Green Day and The Who should be put in as well. (and while i enjoy both of those bands, neither are in any way prog.) 

However, i do feel that Radiohead has a progressive "feel" to their music, and if the you think they should be in here, then more powere to you.  Same goes for those who don't want them to be here

threefates wrote: Actually the thing is Bebe.. if you read enough around here you'll find that most guys like to stay inside their box... it makes them comfortable, so they are constantly trying to fit everything into that box with them... Are you sure that's not just you putting people into little boxes? Radiohead are not prog... and a few (somewhat sound prog) moments don't make them prog.  I like Radiohead.. actually Street Spirit from "The Bends" is playing here right now... Radiohead did not start out as a prog band... whereas Styx did.  Even tho Styx quickly moved out of the genre doesn't change the fact that thats how they began. Queen also started out as a prog band - and made at least 3 very sound prog LPs - are you suggesting they should be in the archives? Now there's a new band called Intense... they sound prog.. does anyone know anything about them?? I don't - what's their album called?

Certif1ed wrote: the musical box wrote: NO!! I hate them so much that if they joined id prolly leave. They are loved by the masses (18 and under) and therefore are NOT PROG!! I wish I was 18 or under... I think Radiohead are a superb band, and have voiced my opinion one too many times about how proggy I think they are. They're proggier than most modern prog bands - not least because they PROGRESS and write ORIGINAL material.

Im under 18 and i hate them!!! and Cert, if progressing and writing original material were the only requirements of prog, dont ya think think guys like Elvis and Angelbert Humperdink would be on the site?

Certif1ed wrote: I did say "not least"... I could elaborate as long as you can stay awake...

i missed that...and im sure you could.

Remember as a newb when we argued about "who was more instrumental in the prog movement: Floyd or Crimson"? ..i do..you owned my ass! But that still doesnt make your opinion more valid. Fact is: Radiohead is not prog.

the musical box wrote: Remember as a newb when we argued about "who was more instrumental in the prog movement: Floyd or Crimson"? ..i do..you owned my ass! I rarely remember anything I write - it all tends to be spontaneous. I was probably wrong in that argument, as the topic seems entirely subjective - if I "owned your ass", then I was probably using dirty, underhand, subversive debating techniques and misleading facts to justify what I was saying... again . Please feel free to correct me on any occasion you see fit... But that still doesnt make your opinion more valid. True. Fact is: Radiohead is not prog. Er... no; Fact is: that is opinion, not fact...

Queen also started out as a prog band - and made at least 3 very sound prog LPs - are you suggesting they should be in the archives?

Actually some critics said that, but Queen deny that their stuff was prog at all... and I didn't find it prog at all either...

I do - especially Queen, Queen II and A Night At The Opera.

Queen II, only side two can with goodwill be described as prog-rock (the FM written songs), perhaps even side A, but already more Glitter-pompous-Glam-rock. Queen I is a Led Zep-style rock album, with only hints of progressiveness. And the rest of their catalogue stands well away of prog-rock.

Only Hot space is really progrock, but I think I'm alone on this

You missed out your statement "Radiohead did not start out as a prog band... whereas Styx did.  Even tho Styx quickly moved out of the genre doesn't change the fact that thats how they began.", which preceeded my comments about Queen and makes a whole different sense of the thread you quoted.

Naughty TF - trying dirty, underhanded tactics to swing the argument? That's what I do - it must be catching

Certif1ed wrote: You missed out your statement "Radiohead did not start out as a prog band... whereas Styx did.  Even tho Styx quickly moved out of the genre doesn't change the fact that thats how they began.", which preceeded my comments about Queen and makes a whole different sense of the thread you quoted. Naughty TF - trying dirty, underhanded tactics to swing the argument? That's what I do - it must be catching

No Cert, you just keep going and going and going until we give in.
I keep a can of petrol and a box of matches at the side of my PC just in case I feel the need to end it all midway through one of your paragraphs!