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philippe
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Topic: Moog synth in prog history! Posted: April 07 2004 at 06:57 |
Can you name the first prog artist or band who used for the first time the revolutionnary Moog Synth conceived by Bob Moog himeslf?
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lucas
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 11:30 |
Wendy Carlos ?
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 11:39 |
I would guess at either Keith Emerson, or Manfred Mann
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 12:09 |
I think the first one who played it must've been Bob Moog himself!
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 12:37 |
you are true...Wendy Carlos & Keith Emerson were the first. However only Carlos and Florian Fricke has composed a whole album with the Moog synth : 'Switched on Bach' for W. Carlos & 'Affenstunde' for F.Fricke.
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 12:38 |
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 13:06 |
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philippe
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 15:46 |
I talk about prog artists not about his conceptor...funny guys!!
Others suggestions?
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 16:43 |
philippe wrote:
I talk about prog artists not about his conceptor...funny guys!!
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You gotta admit Phillipe, Joren is pretty sharp for a Young man. The old guys like Peter and Jim missed that one by a mile.
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 01:20 |
Okay, y'all...I'll give a free trip to the dark side of the moon to anyone who can answer the following:
Where did Bob Moog get the idea for the synthesizer? And no, it was not an original idea...
Good luck!
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philippe
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 04:56 |
In his work, Bob MOOG was sharply influenced by Columbia Princetown Electronic music, the french contemporary music lead by Henry...using electronic sounds. But Bob Moog get the idea of synth by Leon Theremin (engineer / creator of the theremin at the beginning of the 20th) & the designer Harald Bode.
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 05:34 |
danbo wrote:
philippe wrote:
I talk about prog artists not about his conceptor...funny guys!!
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You gotta admit Phillipe, Joren is pretty sharp for a Young man. The old guys like Peter and Jim missed that one by a mile. |
If it wasn't for my arthritis, rheumatism & quadruple incontinence, I'd come over there & give you a damned good thrashing, young man!
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 13:14 |
Jim Garten wrote:
danbo wrote:
philippe wrote:
I talk about prog artists not about his conceptor...funny guys!!
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You gotta admit Phillipe, Joren is pretty sharp for a Young man. The old guys like Peter and Jim missed that one by a mile.
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If it wasn't for my arthritis, rheumatism & quadruple incontinence, I'd come over there & give you a damned good thrashing, young man! |
Please, stop killing each other, oldtimers! You are both important members here!
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 13:22 |
Kind of like a sword fight with wet noodles, ain't it?
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 23:10 |
Phillipe:
Well, although what you say might be true, let me give you a hint. Bob Moog got the original schematics for the first synthesizer from someone else. Who?
Peace.
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 03:56 |
philippe wrote:
you are true...Wendy Carlos & Keith Emerson were the first. However only Carlos and Florian Fricke has composed a whole album with the Moog synth : 'Switched on Bach' for W. Carlos & 'Affenstunde' for F.Fricke. |
No, it is not exact.
At this time Wendy Carlos was Walter Carlos as she is a transsexual woman.
Check the BSO of Clockwork Orange.....
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philippe
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 06:39 |
Tauhd Zaļa wrote:
philippe wrote:
you are true...Wendy Carlos & Keith Emerson were the first. However only Carlos and Florian Fricke has composed a whole album with the Moog synth : 'Switched on Bach' for W. Carlos & 'Affenstunde' for F.Fricke. |
No, it is not exact.
At this time Wendy Carlos was Walter Carlos as she is a transsexual woman.
Check the BSO of Clockwork Orange.....
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I perfectly know this story, but who cares? Wendy & Carlos, it's the same...but yes she first started as Walter Carlos.
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Tauhd Zaļa
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 11:14 |
Tu savais cela ???
Et bien je suis époustouflée
And who cares ??? : ME
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 00:27 |
Keith Emerson may indeed have been the first prog artist to record with the Moog synthesizer, but he was far from the first artist to record with it, as was Walter Carlos. The truth is, no one, not even Bob Moog himself, can seem to remember which album was the first to feature his instrument (at that time the big modular Moog). What is known, is that in 1966 he allowed electronic music pioneers Gershon Kingsley and Jean Jacques Perrey, to use the first modular Moog on what would be that duo's second album "Kaleidoscopic Vibrations". That album was not released until early 1968 however, and it was preceded by at least 3 other "Moog" releases. In the summer of 1967, Paul Beaver (one of Moog's in-house techs) took a modular Moog to California to display it at the Monterey Pop festival. While there, several bigtime groups expressed interest and would go on to puchase one (including the Rolling Stones and the Monkees). As far as is known though, the first albums recorded and released featuring the Moog synthesizer are the following, all released in late 1967:
1. Mort Garson "Zodiac Cosmic Sounds"
2. Hal Blaine "Psychedelic Percussion"
3. Emil Richards "Stones"
All three of those albums were recorded using virtually the same group of musicians, with the last two being cut during the same few days. That much is certain, and one of these three (probably the first one listed) was the first recording featuring the Moog synthesizer.
Now, the first album that was done entirely on the Moog synthesizer was Walter Carlos' "Switched-On Bach" in 1968. There have been MANY albums recorded using nothing but Moog synthesizers, or even a single Moog. There were so many Moog releases between 1969-1974 that I don't have nearly all of them, and I'm a pretty big collector.
Florian Fricke was an early pioneer, in the sense that Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman were... certainly Fricke was among the first prog artists to use the Moog. However, by the time of Affenstunde there had literally been hundreds of albums featuring the Moog synthesizer. In fact, the first rock album to feature one was the Monkees' "Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, & Jones" in late 1967. Even the Beatles used one on Abbey Road (1969).
Anyhow, I found this discussion while searching on Google, and thought I'd drop in. I hope I've been helpful. If you're really interested in Moogs send me an email.
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 18:37 |
Tauhd Zaļa wrote:
philippe wrote:
you
are true...Wendy Carlos & Keith Emerson were the first. However
only Carlos and Florian Fricke has composed a whole album with the
Moog synth : 'Switched on Bach' for W. Carlos & 'Affenstunde' for
F.Fricke. |
No, it is not exact.
At this time Wendy Carlos was Walter Carlos as she is a transsexual woman.
Check the BSO of Clockwork Orange..... |
The moog was used on 'Abbey Road'.
The late composer/conductor/pianist Leonard Bernstein presented an
excellent documentary on the moog many years ago - Walter Carlos was
most definitely male when he was intereviewed for the programme - I
can't remember if Keith Emerson was involved on the show, but it was
unlikely as Bernstein had tried to have the Nice's version of "America"
banned and then apparently refused composer royalties. Either by the
soundtrack for the Disney movie 'Tron' or 'Moonscapes' Walter had
become Wendy.
A bit dubious saying Carlos was composer of 'Switched on Bach', I think
Johann Sebastian will be twilling in his grave - I think the term
"transmoogrification" was used extensively in the late 60's. Like
saying Keith Emerson wrote 'Pictures At An Exhibition' - when in fact
it owes more to Maurice Ravel's orchestral transcription of
Mussorgski's piano composition. The 3 CD remaster set of all the
Switch-on albums (2000 release?), has extensive liner notes fby Wendy
Carlos, which included the fascinating fact that he/she were working on
"Pictures At An Exhibition" as a follow up, when she discovered that
Emerson had sneaked in ahead. BTW That set has a downloadable set of
moog sound samples and will give you hours of fun
Literally 3 hours ago there was programe on the radio about English
language, and they celebrated the 70th birthday of Robert Moog, by
investigating how much terms derived from "synthesis(z)er" have entered
the language. One point of clarification: having spent years
pronouncing Moog's name with stress on the double O, (as in moo -g), I
read somewhere that "moog" rhythmed with "vogue" and corrected
myself - tonight they were using the former pronounciation. Which
is it!?
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