Albums that you find very generic and boring

verslibre wrote: micky wrote: got to go with anything by Camel haha..  the archtype of generic boring 4th division prog...   Wow. I don't like everything Camel's done (not a fan of The Snow Goose or Harbour of Tears), but to call them 4th-tier is harsh. Rain Dances is a splendid record (it was my first, and remains my favorite of theirs), and later albums Breathless, Stationary Traveller and Rajaz are very cool. The very first album's good, too.

Edited by micky - November 25 2018 at 12:08

Anything by Starcastle, but that's saying very little.

Cristi wrote: another negative thread... why do people like this kind of thing I do not understand

 

micky wrote: verslibre wrote: micky wrote: got to go with anything by Camel haha..  the archtype of generic boring 4th division prog...   Wow. I don't like everything Camel's done (not a fan of The Snow Goose or Harbour of Tears), but to call them 4th-tier is harsh. Rain Dances is a splendid record (it was my first, and remains my favorite of theirs), and later albums Breathless, Stationary Traveller and Rajaz are very cool. The very first album's good, too. harsh??? sheesh.. tough crowd.  I was giving them a complement by putting them so high and recognizing while I think they are as limp as Trump's dick and as inspring as a picture of his plastic silicon golddigging wife haha a lot of people like them.. which gives them sort of halfassed importance in prog. but as far as as any importance or generally recognized classics ... much less inspriing anyone of note..  I think I have the right of it.  Having done my division format some years ago..  4th division is about where they belong.  Perhaps if I can be bothred to find it, or recreate my prog divisional list.. you'd see it would be laughable to see them in 3rd division.. there are some heavy weight and influenital groups in there. Posessing qualities that Camel has none of... like them if one wants.. but quite simply.. they were generic formumatic.. and simply brought brough nothing progressive to the music or the genre. IMO course hahaha

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 25 2018 at 14:33

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: micky wrote: verslibre wrote: micky wrote: got to go with anything by Camel haha..  the archtype of generic boring 4th division prog...   Wow. I don't like everything Camel's done (not a fan of The Snow Goose or Harbour of Tears), but to call them 4th-tier is harsh. Rain Dances is a splendid record (it was my first, and remains my favorite of theirs), and later albums Breathless, Stationary Traveller and Rajaz are very cool. The very first album's good, too. harsh??? sheesh.. tough crowd.  I was giving them a complement by putting them so high and recognizing while I think they are as limp as Trump's dick and as inspring as a picture of his plastic silicon golddigging wife haha a lot of people like them.. which gives them sort of halfassed importance in prog. but as far as as any importance or generally recognized classics ... much less inspriing anyone of note..  I think I have the right of it.  Having done my division format some years ago..  4th division is about where they belong.  Perhaps if I can be bothred to find it, or recreate my prog divisional list.. you'd see it would be laughable to see them in 3rd division.. there are some heavy weight and influenital groups in there. Posessing qualities that Camel has none of... like them if one wants.. but quite simply.. they were generic formumatic.. and simply brought brough nothing progressive to the music or the genre. IMO course hahaha Everyone is entitled to their opinion but just wondering if you have actually heard their first five or so albums especially mirage, snowgoose and moonmadness? Or maybe you just don't care for symph prog in general. I honestly can't see anyone who is a symph fan not liking them at least to some degree.

Edited by verslibre - November 25 2018 at 15:25

Well, those who want prog that is super intense all the time probably won't like Camel. They are often a bit on the mellow side. I think it all boils down to taste. Were there bands with better musicians and compositions than Camel? Probably if complexity and virtuoso musicianship is what you are looking for. You could say the same about Pink Floyd though since they maybe weren't the absolute best musicians with the most intense or complex music either. So yeah, don't listen to Camel then. Go put on your Magma, Present or Mahavishnu albums. :P

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 25 2018 at 16:14

Cristi wrote: another negative thread... why do people like this kind of thing I do not understand

Hmm....have to say I'm also struggling with what this thread has to offer, other than an excuse for people to Sl*g off any genre, band, musician, or even PA member who's tastes dare conflict with their own.

I could name a whole host of albums, bands or genres that I don't particularly find to my taste - but I would never criticise those tastes as if I was the arbiter of a true prog vision. My tastes are probably more mainstream, melodic, nostalgic, populist, and UK-centric than most - but hey.... ain't that a bitch! When did PA become a forum when newbies were scared of posting for fear of being mocked for their tastes or choices. I'm too old to worry about it or give a sh*t, but don't let PA become a shark-fest for negativity when prog has so much to celebrate. More positivity, guys! We are all individuals........(I'm not! )

verslibre wrote: That album's so overrated, it's not funny. I think Fugazi and especially Clutching At Straws are far and away the better albums. I'm not sure what it is about Misplaced that has so many Maril-fans gaga.

It doesn’t get more generic, bland, boring...... than Bruce Hornsby - his mundane plinky-plonky piano melodies are sooo pedestrian it makes me puke.