![]() |
(Musician) Ruined ( Band) for me. |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <123> |
Author | ||
BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I totally disagree. Being able to play the same thing twice is what playing composed music is all about, so it is very basic. But for a solo, where in my opinion a musician has the chance to let his imagination flow and improvise like hell, this is extremely boring and uninspired. By the way: Most classical composers, for example Bach, Mozart and Beethoven, were great improvisors. Many of their compositions were originally improvised and only afterwards noted down. And THIS is what makes a great musician: To be able to remember what you improvised and write it down.
|
||
![]() BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
||
![]() |
||
Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8617 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
The 3 Voivod albums with Jason Newstead on bass are almost as boring is the Mehallica albums he played on.
|
||
![]() |
||
flyingveepixie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2015 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 146 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Yeah Labrie is cringeworthy these days. I still love the earlier DT albums up to "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" but after that they seemed to go so far downhill in terms of memorable songwriting although the musical virtuosity remains. Labries live performances were never that great and I always thought he was a bit of a wailer on stage but nowadays he just makes me cringe and I can't watch him at all. Edited by flyingveepixie - November 26 2018 at 07:25 |
||
![]() |
||
flyingveepixie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2015 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 146 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
If there's one thing which makes a musician stand out from the crowd it's being able to play the same thing twice - so many musos just can't do that including some very famous ones. As for Peart being an uninspired drummer - well, each to their own I suppose and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. At least it keeps the discussion interesting...
Edited by flyingveepixie - October 14 2018 at 04:58 |
||
![]() |
||
dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20660 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
^ Ditto for me.....
|
||
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin |
||
![]() |
||
wiz_d_kidd ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 13 2018 Location: EllicottCityMD Status: Offline Points: 1462 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I mostly agree, but have to say Discipline was an absolute gem (for me, anyway). After that, I think Belew exerted too much influence and moved the music in a direction I didn't care for.
|
||
![]() |
||
micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
try this again, minus the emoticon.. LaBrie was FAR from the only fatal affliction that group had. Just the most obvious and most fun to sh*t upon As far as the topic itself and musicians, not singers. Really hard to say. I'd have to think back and think long to consider any and likely wouldn't be prog groups. Now a more interesting side topic would be the absence of which musicians ruined bands moving forward. The shining example in my book being Phil Shulman and Gentle Giant who lost the plot and whose sound and style completely changed and NOT for the better.
|
||
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
|
||
![]() |
||
micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
AWESOME!!!!!
Captcha is back.. got me (unsaved) with an emoticon
|
||
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
|
||
![]() |
||
Quinino ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Dream Theater vocalist (what's his name) is totally insufferable for me (but I make an exception for Metropolis, love the album)
|
||
![]() |
||
Cambus741 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 12 2015 Location: Chelmsford Status: Offline Points: 1226 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I don't like Purple with anyone other than Gillan as singer.
|
||
![]() |
||
BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Novalis and the totally uninspired Hartwig Biereichel on drums. And I know I will get flak from Rush fans for this, but Neil Peart is also totally uninspired, though technically much better than Biereichel. But great technique does not make up for lack of inspiration. Peart is the main reason I don't like Rush. Rush fans will of course point out the famous Neil Peart drum solo, but this solo actually only proves my point. It is played exactly the same way every time he plays it; not a bit of improvisation at all.
|
||
![]() BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
||
![]() |
||
Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5695 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Haha.. holy Sh-1t. Now that I'm listening to more and more of his songs, I totally got used to the nuances in the guy's vocals and I'm fine with his voice now. Who would've ever thought? ![]() |
||
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong |
||
![]() |
||
Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Edited by Mortte - July 21 2018 at 23:56 |
||
![]() |
||
Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1636 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Well, Steve Perry took a band with some promise straight into sappy, saccharine arena rock hell.
|
||
![]() |
||
Prog Sothoth ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 03 2011 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 1940 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
90% of my choices would involve singers…but I’ll go for
something a bit different.
Judas Priest had a string of terrific drummers in the 70’s,
then David Holland joined in 1979. Maybe he had spent his talent-wad on
Trapeze, but he was such a boring time-keeper with almost no fills, rolls, anything.
Granted, Priest’s stuff during his tenure was often classic, including their
biggest FM hard-rock hits as well as some of my favorites by the band, but I
can only imagine how much better songs like “Freewheel Burning” and such would’ve
sounded with a more adventurous drummer and not a dull metronome. Him leaving in
the late 80’s helped the band’s brief resurgence with Painkiller. Then the awful sex offences and imprisonment in 2004 made
him such a pariah, his name was never brought up concerning the current
re-interest in the band and their legacy. When he died this past January,
nobody blinked an eye…it was like he never existed in the first place. If
somehow Judas Priest wind up in the R&RHOF (I know, not that it matters), I
doubt David Holland’s name will be included despite playing drums on the songs
most people know them for. I try not to think of the guy while hearing “Breaking
the Law”, “You’ve Got Another Thing Coming” and such, but after awhile I notice
the plain drum beats, then think of the guy, and what he did later in life… |
||
![]() |
||
Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5695 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Nad Sylvan ruined Agents of Mercy and pretty much every act he was in (including Anderson/Stolt) for me. Can't stand his choked and clogged voice.
|
||
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong |
||
![]() |
||
Raccoon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 17 2012 Location: 444 Grove St RZ Status: Offline Points: 763 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Steven Wilson is kinda a grade-A d***
![]() I remember an old thread in these here domains, from an interview from Steven about The Flower Kings: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=88744 Honestly, looking back, Steven viewing The Flower Kings as the death of progressive music, though it is a harsh opinion, is JUST an opinion. I certainly don't see his viewpoint on that progressive music nowadays needs to be needlessly heavy, infact that's what hasn't aged well with me. Doesn't sound organic to me, lots of the new heavier progressive albums. Eh. People can have Wilson. I'd say Hip-Hop is actually today's progressive (Donuts, King Geedorah, Madvillany, MM Food, Frank Ocean, Quasimoto, Viktor Vaughn..) But nobody would go for that, no.. |
||
![]() |
||
Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Heh. Recently, I feel kinda the same way after hearing some Neil Peart interviews. It doesn't make me want to listen to the music any less but it does make it a bit harder to separate the man from the art, as it were.
Growling pretty much ruins any song for me. Edited by Jeffro - July 19 2018 at 04:12 |
||
![]() |
||
Larkstongue41 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 07 2015 Location: Eastern Canada Status: Offline Points: 1360 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I used to spin Pink Floyd albums regularly... before I listened to a few Gilmour and Waters interviews.
|
||
"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
|
||
![]() |
||
dwill123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I didn't like it when Adrian Belew joined King Crimson. The music got a little silly.
|
||
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <123> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |