The Renaissance Zone

I finally got around to hearing the mach1's works last night. Started with best of the Yardbirds, then mach1's first two studio albums. Followed by Illusion's two seventies studio albums, McCarty's "Out Of the Dark' and the McCarty/Illusion/Renaissance(!) masterpiece "Through the Fire". Nice. :)

so it turns out McCarty released another solo album earlier this year.  It's more folky even country but with his intrinsic charm as always.  Apparently Hawken plays piano on at least one track and even Alex Lifeson makes an appearance.  I'll be adding it to the archives shortly.

Edited by kenethlevine - July 15 2018 at 14:21

It didn't occur to me that instead of saying that 10-4 means understood, it's also trucker slang for "roger that."

EDIT: Seem to remember a slang thread that would be nice to revive. A Slang around the world would be nice, plus slang through the ages, such as, in keeping with this topic, Renaissance slang: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/renaissance-slang

Edited by Logan - July 15 2018 at 09:04

Gotcha.  Well, that's the disadvantage of not living over there.  I can pick up a decent amount of slang from the movies and other pop culture products but some things still elude me.

rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: ^Wow, that's fascinating! Love following this band's early history. I also like McCarty's solo albums but I've never heard the Pilgrim material. I'll have to check it out asap. I did find Jane's Carpet of the Sun on a source that I cannot name here.  But you will find it easily on the net.  And of course, you should be able to access spotify/deezer which do offer it on streaming.  She sang it quite well, matching up decently with Annie's studio cut.  Live Annie took it to another level. 10-4. Thanks. Pardon?

Sorry for answering a question directed to another.

"10-4" means "Understood." It's CB radio code used by certain law enforcement, CB radio operators, and people who watch things like Smokey and the Bandit.

rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: ^Wow, that's fascinating! Love following this band's early history. I also like McCarty's solo albums but I've never heard the Pilgrim material. I'll have to check it out asap. I did find Jane's Carpet of the Sun on a source that I cannot name here.  But you will find it easily on the net.  And of course, you should be able to access spotify/deezer which do offer it on streaming.  She sang it quite well, matching up decently with Annie's studio cut.  Live Annie took it to another level.

10-4. Thanks.

^Wow, that's fascinating! Love following this band's early history. I also like McCarty's solo albums but I've never heard the Pilgrim material. I'll have to check it out asap.

yes I had heard those references to the two different lineups of Renaissance - baroque vs romantic.  But the Ren Mach 1 still doesn't do much for me to this day, whereas they really hit their stride when they reunited as Illusion in the mid-late 1970s.  Unfortunately they didn't have the following that Mach 2 had and Mach 2 wasn't huge enough to draw people in based on the tenuous connections.  Suffice to say that, love them, hate them or be indifferent, their intertwined histories are fascinating, not to mention connections to bands like Yardbirds and Strawbs.  I'm also a fan of McCarty's two solo albums, particularly "Out of the Dark" from the early 1990s (which allmusic granted 4.5 stars to) and even RENAISSANCE ILLUSION from the early 2000s.  He should have used Jane a bit more in that latter album.  He has also done some good work in the more new agey outfit called PILGRIM, who have a few great songs like "A Face to Die for" and "A Dream within a Dream"

rogerthat wrote: Also, SteveG can correct me if I am wrong about this, but always felt mki/Illusion was more baroque while mkii leaned more towards classical composers.  The Indian composer Ilayaraja influenced my listening a lot in my formative years and he was a bigtime Bach fanboy so I guess I find baroque more attractive.

I agree but I think we need to use hyphenated terms like classical-orchestral for mk2 and classical-baroque for mk1 (as Bach was in that band's DNA). 

Edited by SteveG - July 14 2018 at 09:57

kenethlevine wrote: what about "Beautiful Country" or "Wings Across the Sea"?  More Relf and Hawken magic But then there are also "Isadora" and "Madonna Blue", sung my McCarty I believe, and possibly the best Illusion songs (great Hawken work on both).  Then there is "The Revolutionary", like a cross between "Hero and Heroine" and CLANNAD's "Ancient Forest".