Spotify premium offline files

"The amount artists get from Spotify is so mininal that it's completely irrelevant whether they get it or not. "

Not exactly the point. ;-)

The amount may be minimal but copyright is about ownership of an idea or concept. We happen to get nearly nothing from Spotify et al, but I don't want anyone ripping me off - file under "principle". 

Davesax1965 wrote: Spotify pays an absolute pittance for complete plays only.  So that means "don't bother putting up a 10 minute track or anything which isn't mass market". Because if someone clicks off the track after 9.59, no money for the artist.  Curiously, people sign up to Spotify and then complain why there are no live gigs in their area and no new bands coming along, as if the facts aren't interrelated.  Music is not free. Bad music is free. Proper music will always cost money. It's bad enough that people use Spotify, it's even worse that they then research ways of converting offline files into MP3's, totally shortcutting the artist.  Shame on anyone here who does.

Spotify pays an absolute pittance for complete plays only. 

So that means "don't bother putting up a 10 minute track or anything which isn't mass market". Because if someone clicks off the track after 9.59, no money for the artist. 

Curiously, people sign up to Spotify and then complain why there are no live gigs in their area and no new bands coming along, as if the facts aren't interrelated. 

Music is not free. Bad music is free. Proper music will always cost money. It's bad enough that people use Spotify, it's even worse that they then research ways of converting offline files into MP3's, totally shortcutting the artist. 

Shame on anyone here who does. 

^^Huge yes to the two replies above. As a musician on Spotify myself, and a friend to many of them, I am against ripping off musicians by stealing music. Last I checked, the royalty payout per stream on there is 0.0038. At least give the music you love SOMETHING rather than nothing.

If you want artists to be able to make a living I don't think converting your Spotify downloads into permanent possessions is the way to go.

p.s. http://thequietus.com/articles/24471-no-streaming-services-are-not-saving-the-music-industry-opinion

I cannot evaluate Spotify inJapan even now ... looks like it will work in near future though. 

I am not a premium member on Spotify but I can keep the music or more specifically speaking, download the music for free with spam. It's real easy job to convert spam to spam with it. Or you can burn the recording tracks to CD as well. 

Edited by DamoXt7942 - May 07 2018 at 22:24

I don't use these online music services, I still use the Zune Marketplace and now called Xbox Music. But to download the music you have to have a subscription service or I think if you have an Xbox Live account you can stream all you want...Not sure.

Padraic wrote: bloodnarfer wrote: I have premium because ads give me cancer and ruin my day.  But I don't think you can do anything to the downloaded tracks legally since you technically don't own them.  The only real benefit of downloading the tracks is so that you can listen to them anytime without burning through your data.  Or use it on a plane. I guess premium is worth it only if 1. ads really bother you. 2. You would use spotify frequently on your phone. You might as well check out the trial but I'm warning you that's what I did and it just wasn't possible for me to go back to the ad version again. Yeah pretty much this.  I think the burning to CD of Spotify downloaded files falls in a murky area legally, but it is technically possible (as revealed by a small amount of Googling). I was using Spotify Premium for a while but now I'm using Google Play Music All Access.  bloodnarfer's reason #2 was why I was paying for Premium.

I have premium because ads give me cancer and ruin my day.  But I don't think you can do anything to the downloaded tracks legally since you technically don't own them.  The only real benefit of downloading the tracks is so that you can listen to them anytime without burning through your data.  Or use it on a plane.