Is Sgt Pepper Prog?

^ And you should know better with a thread topic posted from a newbe micky. Instead of pointing out to the newbe OP that his tread topic is as old as the hills, has been debated numerous times and lacks a conclusion, you throw more gas on the fire. I'd welcome you back under a different circumstance, but I'm quite tired of this lack of common respect I've seen so far. As I've said, I'm not impressed.

Edited by SteveG - January 27 2018 at 10:50

and what was the OP's question anyhow...

Peter wrote: Davesax1965 wrote: Well, I suppose I'm half right, as Dr Wu says. ;-)  Yes, the board is here to discuss prog rock, but I just find myself looking at some of these "is this prog" posts and being reminded of "Solve if u r genius" posts on Facebook et al. Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh, but some posts seem to be put up just for the sake of putting a post up.  Is Sergeant Pepper prog ? Well. I'm really not bothered, but it was a groundbreaking and stunningly good album, in it's day. I give it a spin every now and again and enjoy it. I'm not really worried if it's prog, progressive pop, psychedelia or whatever, to be honest. Music is art, people interpret art in different ways. One man's prog is another man's psychedelic pop.  I compose music, and I hardly ever think "I know, I'll sit down and write dark ambient" or whatever. It's just a label. I dislike labels, I tend to think labels are invented by record companies to shift product. I suppose I'm in the Frank Zappa camp there. If you want to musically dissect Sergeant Peppers and apply music theory to it to determine what it is or isn't, fine, but to do that with any credence you have to be a musician with vast experience of the genre. It's the usual Internet thing of someone having an opinion and voicing it without the background technical knowledge to back it up.  And it's art. You shouldn't define art by the means of science.  So, sorry, posts like this just irritate me. You've probably noticed: I am ancient and decrepit and curmudgeonly. That's my $0.02, but probably voiced in a more constructive manner than the post above, for which apologies.  THIS man I like! (Buys him a beer, clinks glasses) Cheers!

More question bashing instead of answering the OP's question, which is all that required of any respondent to do when replying to this thread. Rest assured Peter that the moment that you post one of your inane questions or topics in PA, along with the other trolls in this thread, I will you treat you the same in my responses to your posts. I would tell you to just grow up, but that I know when I'm wasting my time with someone as selfish and juvenile as you. I hope that you're impressed with yourself, because you've had absolutely the opposite effect on me.

Davesax1965 wrote: Well, I suppose I'm half right, as Dr Wu says. ;-)  Yes, the board is here to discuss prog rock, but I just find myself looking at some of these "is this prog" posts and being reminded of "Solve if u r genius" posts on Facebook et al. Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh, but some posts seem to be put up just for the sake of putting a post up.  Is Sergeant Pepper prog ? Well. I'm really not bothered, but it was a groundbreaking and stunningly good album, in it's day. I give it a spin every now and again and enjoy it. I'm not really worried if it's prog, progressive pop, psychedelia or whatever, to be honest. Music is art, people interpret art in different ways. One man's prog is another man's psychedelic pop.  I compose music, and I hardly ever think "I know, I'll sit down and write dark ambient" or whatever. It's just a label. I dislike labels, I tend to think labels are invented by record companies to shift product. I suppose I'm in the Frank Zappa camp there. If you want to musically dissect Sergeant Peppers and apply music theory to it to determine what it is or isn't, fine, but to do that with any credence you have to be a musician with vast experience of the genre. It's the usual Internet thing of someone having an opinion and voicing it without the background technical knowledge to back it up.  And it's art. You shouldn't define art by the means of science.  So, sorry, posts like this just irritate me. You've probably noticed: I am ancient and decrepit and curmudgeonly. That's my $0.02, but probably voiced in a more constructive manner than the post above, for which apologies.

THIS man I like! (Buys him a beer, clinks glasses) Cheers!

^ Well that was rather harsh of me, so to make it up I'll sing you a bit of Tull that's floating around in my head:

Edited by SteveG - January 26 2018 at 11:16

To be frank, what I'm going on about is the utter banality of the question, Steve. 

Well. Perhaps I like prog rock, Steve. ;-)

Whatever that is, to be honest. It's a broad church, so I tend to listen to krautrock, space rock, psychedelia, "progressive" music. Without labelling it too much or getting all bothered about if what I'm listening to is considered "prog rock" by the masses. 

I don't, to be honest, sit there wondering whether or not I should listen to something I've not heard before, as I can just spend five seconds dipping into it, and if I like it, I like it. If I don't, five seconds wasted. 

If I do, I don't like it "because it's prog rock" or because "everyone else thinks it's prog rock" or it has a particular label on it. Music is art, art is personal preference. 

I'd like to think most people here subscribe to the same opinion, to be honest. 

Davesax1965 wrote: Well, I suppose I'm half right, as Dr Wu says. ;-)  Yes, the board is here to discuss prog rock, but I just find myself looking at some of these "is this prog" posts and being reminded of "Solve if u r genius" posts on Facebook et al. Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh, but some posts seem to be put up just for the sake of putting a post up.

Well, I suppose I'm half right, as Dr Wu says. ;-) 

Yes, the board is here to discuss prog rock, but I just find myself looking at some of these "is this prog" posts and being reminded of "Solve if u r genius" posts on Facebook et al. Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh, but some posts seem to be put up just for the sake of putting a post up. 

Is Sergeant Pepper prog ? Well. I'm really not bothered, but it was a groundbreaking and stunningly good album, in it's day. I give it a spin every now and again and enjoy it. I'm not really worried if it's prog, progressive pop, psychedelia or whatever, to be honest. Music is art, people interpret art in different ways. One man's prog is another man's psychedelic pop. 

I compose music, and I hardly ever think "I know, I'll sit down and write dark ambient" or whatever. It's just a label. I dislike labels, I tend to think labels are invented by record companies to shift product. I suppose I'm in the Frank Zappa camp there. If you want to musically dissect Sergeant Peppers and apply music theory to it to determine what it is or isn't, fine, but to do that with any credence you have to be a musician with vast experience of the genre. It's the usual Internet thing of someone having an opinion and voicing it without the background technical knowledge to back it up. 

And it's art. You shouldn't define art by the means of science. 

So, sorry, posts like this just irritate me. You've probably noticed: I am ancient and decrepit and curmudgeonly. That's my $0.02, but probably voiced in a more constructive manner than the post above, for which apologies. 

^  Dave is right , no point in these discussions...lets close down the board and go home and listen to the music.